/, Featured, Main/DHS vs. Christians
DHS vs. Christians

There is a fundamental question that every American Christian must answer. Does your religious leader serve the word and the will of God, or does he serve the New World Order through tacit acquiescence?

Ron Trowbridge, an undersheriff with the Prowers County, Colo., Sheriff’s Office detailed a presentation, on behalf of Homeland Security (DHS) in which Colorado State Patrol Trooper, Joe Kluczynski, gave a two hour presentation on the “sovereign citizen” movement. The message was clear to all in attendance. If Christians take the Bible too literally, they should be considered to be a domestic terrorist threat under the label of what DHS is referring to as being a sovereign citizen. The movement is a thinly veiled attempt to divide Christians into two camps. One group of Christians, which follow their false prophet leaders who believe in a perverted interpretation of Romans 13 that espouses that Christians condone all actions of government, no matter what these actions consist of. These are to be considered the “good Christians” and will be tolerated by NWO lap dogs, namely the DHS. There is a second group of Christians which pose a threat to DHS because they take the word of God literally and recognize His laws as taking precedent over the laws of mankind. The latter group of Christians are ones that need to be dealt with.

With the Kluczynski presentation, America has officially entered into the realm of religious persecution.

The Sovereign Citizen Label

Kluczynski’s presentation centered on the personal characteristics what he referred to as the  “sovereign citizen” movement. Sovereign citizens consist of anti-government extremists, mostly Christian, who believe that, despite their domestic residence within the United States, they consider themselves separate or “sovereign” from the United States.  The FBI goes on to state that these “sovereign citizens” believe that “they don’t have to answer to any government authority, including courts, taxing entities, motor vehicle departments, or law enforcement”.

Are You An Unwitting Sovereign Citizen?

Lets’ perform a reality check here, how many of you Christians actually know concentrated groups of other Christians, who believe in what is described in the above paragraph? I know of nobody and certainly if there are such groups, they should be considered to be statistical outliers to the degree that they are incapable of threatening the status quo because their numbers are so miniscule.

Using myself as an example, I have strongly voiced my objections that the government has taken since 9/11 with the passage of the Patriot Acts, the creation of the Stasi style Homeland Security, the passage of the unconstitutional NDAA, starting wars under false pretenses and for corporate gain and much more. However, I submit to the laws of my nation and have never been arrested. I have not had a traffic ticket in 30 years, I pay my fair share of taxes to a government that uses my money to kill innocent people around the world (yet I still pay), I possess a drivers license and the required insurance amounts and I demonstrate outward respect for judges and the police. I have never advocated for the overthrow of the government, despite the fact that it has been hijacked by the five megabanks which are run by proven criminals. Yet, according Kluczynski, I am a sovereign citizen and a potential domestic terrorist because I am a Christian and disagree with the direction the government is going. Further, I take the Bible literally and therefore, I am considered an enemy of the State by DHS and I would be labeled, and most of you would be labeled, a sovereign citizen. I categorically deny such an allegiance. I am an American citizen attempting to re-establish the rule of law to my country by re-instituting constitutional principles into our law making practices. The term sovereign citizen is a new synonym for al Qaeda.

What also makes me a sovereign citizen in the eyes of this American version of the Stasi, is that I constantly advocate for taking as much of your money out of the bank as possible because the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals ruled last August that the banks can do whatever they want with my money once I deposit it into their coffers. I have advocated that we support only locally owned businesses and restaurants because the bankster owned corporate chain stores are behind the tyranny being perpetrated against the American people. I have long advocated for bartering and trading as well as growing your own food in order to avoid the obvious manipulations which could be perpetrated by an out of control government. All of my advice is predicated on economic self defense as they are they all precautionary moves based on observable facts and these actions are well within my constitutional rights, as an American citizen, to engage in. Doesn’t the First Amendment guarantee all of us the right of free association? If not, then Kluczynski has tipped the hand of this criminal government.


Either you believe in your criminal government and denounce your allegiance to the word of God, or you are a terrorist.

All Religion Is Local

Kluczynski did not explain what he meant by ‘fundamentalists’ but from the context it was clear he was referring again to those who took the Bible literally or ‘too seriously There is an old saying which states that all politics is local. The same can now be said for religion. The days of organized religion on a grand scale may be at an end if our Christian faith is to survive the totalitarian onslaught from our government.

The Judas Factor

We all know that Judas took 30 pieces of silver to betray Jesus. Many pastors, in support of their tax exempt churches, are betraying the word of God in the same manner in order to save a little in tax money.

The Voices of History

History has proven what happens to a people when its religious institutions capitulate to a criminal, totalitarian government.

  • Everybody knows that when the German clergy of the 1930′s, in which only 5% of the churches opposed Hitler, pretended not to notice the evil which inspired the actions of Hitler. Subsequently millions died and evil was served by their complicit silence in the face of this Satanically inspired evil.
  • Everybody knows that when the Russian clergy pretended not to notice the evil which inspired the ruthless actions of Stalin, millions died and evil was served by their complicit silence.
  • Everybody should know that if the majority of the American clergy chooses to pretend to not notice the pervasive evil which is presently inspiring the ruthless actions of much of our governmental leadership, millions will continue to die and abject evil will continue to be served by our out of control government.

The modern interpretation of Romans 13 is pure blasphemy. This scripture has been morphed into a doctrine espousing the “Divine Right of Kings” in which God has somehow chosen a king to ruthlessly rule over a people and it is incumbent upon the people to accept their “God-given fate.”  The flock are commanded to “…submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.”  This false interpretation is nothing but a divine coronation of a ruthless, self-serving government and Christians are expected to capitulate and honor the same kind of thievery, lawlessness and murder which inspired Jesus to expel the money-changers from the Temple.

Organized Religion Is Already In Decline

It is a well known fact that the power and viability of churches are in noticeable decline. Not only is religious affiliation and church attendance in decline, many of the leaders of our religious institutions can no longer be trusted to preach the word of God versus espousing the new American religious mantra, which is to falsely interpret Romans 13 in which these “new age pastors” are calling for blind obedience to their “God-chosen” governmental leaders.

As I contemplate what many of churches will be like as they embrace a perverted interpretation of Romans 13, I am left wondering what kind of God would condone the horrific abuses being perpetrated by the Obama administration?

  • What kind of God would command its leaders to encourage, codify into law and then to tell its flock to simply ignore the American Holocaust which has witnessed the murder of over 50 million American babies, since Roe v. Wade, in 1973?
  • What kind of God would not have its clergy and its followers fail to condemn the bankster controlled wars of American imperialism which have resulted in the unnecessary deaths of millions of human beings?
  • What kind of God would fail to command his clergy to not speak out and to condemn the actions of the criminals on Wall Street, who inspired only by the love of money, for their continued assaults upon humanity in the form of unlabeled  poisonous GMO’s, the theft of solvent home mortgages by the mega banks, and the secret detentions and the murder of American citizens under the NDAA.
  • What kind of God would have its religious and government leaders fail to speak out against the fact that our current President who has no hesitation in supporting the radical, Sharia Law serving Muslim Brotherhood who are committed to the execution of all Christians in lands in which they have control?
  • What kind of God would order his followers to remain silent as the bankster controlled government plans to commence a world war starting with Iran or North Korea or China in order to support the preservation of the Petrodollar which will result in the potential death of billions of human beings?
  • What kind of God would command his flock to serve a government that seeks to eviscerate the Bible as the literal word of God?

I cannot tell you what kind of God would command complete and unquestioning obedience to such corrupt government leaders as well as the clergy members who they now control. In short, no God of the Bible would ever command his followers to both enable and to serve the evil which permeates our government. For any church who encourages complete obedience to a corrupt government has taken a big step towards accepting the Mark of the Beast. This is a very dangerous precedent, and this could potentially imperil the salvation of millions if Christians allow this false doctrine to expand across our nation’s churches.

The Clergy Response Team

It is very likely that religious leaders who do not truly serve God are repeating the mantra set forth by them from the Clergy Response Team, whose new mission is to  continually remind their flock of their Romans 13 duty to serve the wishes of their government.

The Clergy Response Team falls under the umbrella series of programs known as National Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster (NOVAD) which is a non-profit, member organization which shares knowledge and resources throughout a disaster. The organization helps to prepare, respond, recover and to mitigate the damage caused by some unknown disaster presumably which lies in the future of humanity.
NOVAD claims to be a faith-based coalition which is structured as a non-governmental organization and operates on a national scale and is supported by tax dollars funnelled to DHS. Instantly, Bible believing Christians should smell a rat. Since when has the federal government ever sponsored organized religion? The answer is not since well before the advent of the atheist activist, Madalyn Murray O’Hair, who was successful in banning prayer in the public schools in 1963. Then why would the government suddenly fund and support a “faith-based organization” on a national scale?  The simple answer is the that Homeland Security is seeking to control our churches and ministers, before the impending train wreck comes to fruition inside of America. DHS desperately is seeking to control all Christians through the perversion of Romans 13 and this is one of two cornerstones in this movement designed to control Christian leaders. What is the impending train wreck that I am referring to?

A Major False Flag Attack Is Coming

We can say that a likely false flag event, of epic proportions, will be used to usher in the new age under the iron fist of martial law. Does it really matter as to the details? DHS has purchased 2.2 billion rounds of ammunition. Who is DHS planning on shooting? FEMA has operationalized several FEMA camps. Who is FEMA planning on imprisoning without due process under the NDAA? Additionally, it is a well known fact that millions of FEMA coffins have been strategically placed outside of many major metropolitan areas. Who is DHS/FEMA planning on exterminating? I can draw no other conclusion than DHS is planning on a modern-day feeding of the Christians to the modern-day lions who serve the global elite agenda. Clearly, something big is in the works and Christians, along with their fundamentalist beliefs must be neutralized before the proverbial mess hits the New World Order fan.

FEMA and DHS directors have told the pastors that attend NOVAD meetings, that it is their duty to help implement FEMA and Homeland Security directives in anticipation of any eventualities of calamity and disaster. Pastors have further been instructed to preach Romans 13 to their followers, which of course we know was deliberately taken out of context by Hitler to fool Christians into supporting him and it is based upon the philosophy that obedience to government, even a corrupt government, is tantamount to obedience to God.

DHS vs. True Christians

There can be little doubt that organizations such as DHS have declared war upon ordinary American Christians and one of the first precepts of war is to destroy the command and control structure of  the enemy. And we average Americans are the new terrorists, the new enemy of the state, according to DHS documents. For many Americans, their command and control structure lies in their faith which is centered in their church and that structure is under direct assault from the federal government.

I can foresee the day when the clergy, from the 501 (C) (3) controlled pulpits don’t talk about the evils of abortion, but instead tell their flock to turn in their guns and everything will be OK.

God-fearing Christians must wonder why so many of our religious leaders have forsaken the religious roots of their obedience to the word of God and espouse an unquestioning faith in government. The answer is surprisingly simple as every Christian knows that the root of all evil is money.

What’s a Good Christian To Do?

If you fall under the DHS label of being a sovereign citizen because you have an uncompromising view, then you need to adopt strategies which will, in some measure, take you out of harm’s way.

You need to begin a small bible study involving 6 or 7 adults. Do not announce your meeting so that the local authorities cannot pass zoning laws against this practice as then did in the former Soviet Union.

By engaging in small Bible study groups, you will not need to worry about money, tax exempt status, being a member of the Clergy Response Team or any other DHS practice.


If you are hesitant to leave your compromised tax-exempt church, I understand the emotional struggle associated with such an action. However, before you stay in attendance at your tax-exempt church, please consider the following as the proof is in the pulpit.

  • Does your religious leader teach from the Bible?
  • Does he/she apply the lessons of the Bible to daily living and does not shy away from controversy when the actions of government violate the laws of God?
  • Does your church renounce evil in all forms? Does your clergy encourage their congregations to oppose evil, by being faithful to the word of God in all areas?
  • Does your church organize its followers to carry the word and the will of God to society as a whole in an effort to save the misled?
  • Does your pastor denounce abortion, war, thievery, murder and all behaviors which violate the Ten Commandments?

If your clergy is not clearly addressing these issues, then it would be prudent to find a church, or preferably a home study group, in which the word of God is honored and unquestionably supersedes the word of government when the two conflict.

Today’s religious leaders who bow down to the holy temple of Homeland Security are bought and paid for at a very cheap price. What does a church gain by accepting a 501 (c)(3) tax exemption? Ten Percent? Twenty Percent off from its tax obligation? This makes the thirty pieces of silver that Judas took to betray his Lord, look like a good deal. Compromised pastors should take warning of Judas’s ultimate fate. And if you stay loyal to the pastoral sell-outs, you will no doubt suffer the same fate as Judas. These are indeed very trying times that we live in.


By | 2017-10-26T22:15:40+00:00 April 8th, 2013|Activism, Featured, Main|20 Comments

About the Author:


  1. Voice in the Wilderness April 9, 2013 at 1:50 am

    Very informative article! In the same vein of discovery, let us compare Judas’s 30 pieces of silver to Solomon’s 666 talents of gold.

    It is revealed at Revelation 13:18 : “Here is WISDOM. Let him that hath UNDERSTANDING count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

    I have capitalized the words, wisdom and understanding, so that the reader may observe that Christ is here revealing a clue to the identity and mark of the ‘beast’. If one looks back to the books of Kings and Chronicles, one finds the man of whom Christ is speaking. What man is recorded in both books to have exacted gold tributes of 666 talents? What man was gifted with wisdom and understanding above every other of his day? What man fell away from worshiping the One True God, following after the false gods of his many wives?

    Surely by now, the reader can discern what man! Solomon! The man that took the ‘star of chemosh’ as his own personal seal, afterward to be known as the ‘seal of solomon! Later, to be referred to, (as a cover up) as the “star of david”. The HEXagram has no historical link to David of the Bible. It it IS however, linked with the fallen solomon. And what organizations today USE the six pointed star? The ‘free’masons are founded upon the fallen solomon and have revered him highly throughout their organization….and ‘who’ else shares this symbol, steeped in demonic ritual? One cannot now look at C-span without seeing the six pointed star on the national seal, and a HEXagram between each and every member of congress. Soldiers are now asking why it is that each officer sword of all branches of the military have the HEXagram on the hilt of every blade. The HEXagram is a geometric reference to the number 666. The cwhoreporation, Digimarc, for instance, (designer of driver’s licenses and ID’s for various U.S. states) has an interesting logo…. look at the colored spoked wheels inside the circle. Notice the color key on the outside edge? Using those colors, one may find 3 six spoked ‘stars’ superimposed upon one another. 6-6-6…..and on forms of citizen identification no less!

    Take a dollar bill from one’s back pocket and see that the HEXagram mark of the beast is emblazoned above the eagle, which is their way of indicating that ‘they’ rule ‘over’ america.

    But why believe me? See for yourselves:


    Google – six pointed star mark

    Google – 666 talents of gold

    Google – D.C. Jerusalem masonic shrine

    Google – Shriner lucifer

    Google – lucifer telescope

    Youtube – walmart guard towers. They have made their deal with the devil, so to speak and are considered, “too big to fail”. Their workers already wear the six pointed ‘star’ on the foreheads. (of their hats anyway) Can the reader now see that, after all the smaller retail food outlets have diminished or dried up and blown away, that only the largest retail giant in the land will have food rations? That is why they have the guard towers? And what is their “mark”? The same as the mark of the beast! It’s not hard to see food lines and many minions, having signed their lives away, lining up with their ‘marks’ handy, in order to obtain rations.

    Google – Walmart six pointed logo

    Google – soldiers ask why six pointed star now on all officer swords

    Google – talmud truths

    The hour is late, the harvest is great and the workers are few…. See the signs He has promised us…


    The story “Huge Media Blackout regarding earth and moon orbital changes” used to be hosted at Beforeitsnews.com but the story was deleted several times. This information is of vital importance to all who wish to make informed decisions regarding the lives of their loved ones and themselves. Many were warned, yet because of the “HUGE MEDIA BLACKOUT” when the great flooding on the missouri river took place in 2011 as a direct result of the markedly increased solar radiation now hitting the northern latitudes in spring and summer months, not many took heed to the warnings. And who knew beforehand??? I attended the army core of engineers meeting after the disaster and addressed the Truth. The cowards sat silent and guilty, and there is no way they couldn’t have known well before hand as I and many others knew and tried to warn others.

    Study and see that Luke 21:25-28 is in fulfillment at this time. And see that when God says that the heavenly bodies will shake, and there will be signs in sun, moon and stars, while the nations will be in anguish over the great agitation of the oceans…..He Means It. Isaiah 24:20, He means it. Revelation 16:8, He means it!


    Christ also means it as He reassures us, “When you see the beginning of these things, STAND UP and LIFT UP your heads, for your redemption draws near”. TOO many are instead doing just the opposite, sitting down and hanging their heads! IF ONE IS AFRAID of what is coming upon the world, it is only because, deep down, you believe YOU HAVE IT COMING to you!

    DO YOU? Kneel and repent of sin, live STRONG in HIS WORD, His SON, Jesus Christ, and be forgiven, and you will instead find GREAT REASON to stand and raise your heads, even your voices, to God and to your fellow man.


    He forgave Kirk Martin, He can forgive you too….Try Him. Soon.

    For those who truly seek to know God’s ways, If He exists, where is his signature on Creation….I tell you the time is short, the harvest is great, and the workers are few. See:





    Blessings friends, in Jesus Christ!

    And remember, It is HIGH TIME to STAND UP and LIFT UP your heads, for your redemption draws near!!!

  2. Stephen Patrick April 9, 2013 at 2:58 am

    You’ve just described pretty much every Evangelical or Baptist church in America today. Thats why I left. They all have flags up in front, honor the troops, support Israel while they commit genocide on the Palestinians, preach sappy sermons, etc. Oh, and they don’t need to worry about what is taking place in this country because they all believe that they will be raptured out of here just in time. They really do teach from the Bible, but it’s their warped interpretation of it thats dangerous. What a croc. They are all sell-outs. But, thats American Christianity for you.

  3. John Doe April 9, 2013 at 3:58 am

    When a nation has filled up it’s cup of sin (By rejecting YHWH and His Word) YHWH sends a destroyer to lay waste to that nation. This is what we are experiencing in America. It’s called corporate judgement. America ignored it’s holy men and turned their face from the Creator. Americans wickedly chose sin over grace and obedience to YHWH. So now comes our destroyers and goodly people will suffer along with the wicked.

  4. FreeMan April 9, 2013 at 4:13 am

    The term/name, “Sovereign Citizen” is an oxymoron. You’re either one or the other – not both.The “sovereign citizen” (eviscerated) movement is not for the true Christian. As a true Christian, you should (and will) go to sedm.org and read the “Path To Freedom” PDF.

  5. zane April 9, 2013 at 6:53 am

    Dave I love your website and share many of your articles with people I know. I am a Seventh Day Adventist, bible preaching, sabbath keeper. God hasnt changed his law or ways, and being a Christian, my family and church have been preparing for religious persecution, and practicing country living for some time now. I welcome it because it means we are that much closer to Jesus returning. We are living in the last days of earths history and to see the look on Obama and these elitists faces when they see Jesus and his millions of angels coming will be memorable! Now more than ever, we need to finish the work God has appointed His people!
    Soon our faith is going to be tested unlike ever before and we have to be ready. There will only be 2 sides, Gods side and everyone else.
    Revelation and Daniel are my 2 favorite books of the bible since they let us know where we are in time. I’m trying to be in the group revelation 14:12 describes, the winning side.

    Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.-rev 14:12

    *also for everyone posting the ridiculous comments, use only your bible to study the bible and alsways pray before you do. The holy spirit will help you further along in study than you think.

  6. David McElroy April 9, 2013 at 8:09 am

    We are entering the American era of “state approved churches”, wherein true Christians will be forced to worship in “underground” churches fearful of police raids. The sheep will be separated from the goats.

  7. Nullifier April 9, 2013 at 8:15 am

    You wrote, “I take the Bible literally”, yet you also wrote, “The root of all evil is money”. 1 Timothy 6:10 states, “For the love of money is the root of all evil.” Pretty big difference, don’t you think?

  8. avenueoflight April 9, 2013 at 9:54 am

    WHAT ARE BELIEVER’S OF MESSIAH TO DO??? “ENDURE TILL THE END”! REFUSE TO BOW DOWN AND RECEIVE THE MARK (CHIP) UNDER THE FINAL ANTICHRIST FALSE-MESSIAH; WHO SHALL SOON BE ENTHRONED IN GOD’S HOLY CITY, JERUSALEM (DANIEL 11:45)… FOR EARTH’S FINAL 3 1/2 YEARS(TRUE BIBLICAL TRIBULATION) WHERE IS CHRIST’S THRONE? JOHN 14:1-3. HE SAYS: HE’S COMING TO DESTROY THOSE WHO ARE (DESTROYING THE EARTH). Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and (shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth). HE’S NOT GOING TO DESTROY HIMSELF IS HE? HIS KINGDOM IS “NOT” (OF “THIS” WORLD)! IF HE DID NOT COME AT THE END OF THE 3 1/2 YEARS; “NO FLESH WOULD BE SAVED”! BUT FOR THE SAKE OF THE ELECT; HE WILL CUT IT SHORT! STOP LISTENING TO ALL THE ANTI-CHRISTS AND READ THE K.J. BIBLE FOR YOURSELF.

  9. Joshua Shanholtz April 9, 2013 at 11:48 am

    Yahshua = Truth

  10. Thinker April 9, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    This is overall a good article. I disagree with a few points, for instance taking the bible literally can have it’s problems, also, division topics like abortion can be side-tracking -though I understand the sentiment. Also I wish you hadn’t used a black person pic as the emblem of false church leaders, since the gross majority of these shills and certainly those lording it over the biggest churches are in fact White.
    It is true the false leaders in today’s churches are government shills. One only needs to consider their failure to say anything about chemtrails or the NDAA to see this. I too recently arrived at the idea that those who wish to have religious fellowship meetings should be doing so in small groups rather than going to herd type churches. This allows for religious fellowship and also discussions of important issues happening to all of us now. Those who continue to pay for or attend most any church today are incredibly ignorant. Thanks for another thoughtful article Dave.

  11. walt April 9, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    God knows all that is going on- after all it is his plan- whether we accept it or not.

  12. Voice in the Wilderness April 9, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    What army fits the description of the beast? Remember, the roman army was the first beast….what shall be the last? What army has taken dominion over the air, becoming the greatest air power worldwide, even going into space, as foretold? What army even controls the weather to an extent, as foretold….even being able to call down lightning from heaven with it’s technology? What army uses the HEXagram six pointed star of solomon as it’s ‘seal’ or mark?

    Why is the HEXagram 666 seal of solomon now on all officer swords of the U.S. military?



    For those who wish to gain true Understanding of these matters, carefully examine the information in my first post above. KNOW thine ENEMY…..lest one be fooled into taking a mark they are already familiar with, and have discounted!

    It is clear who the enemies of God are, and their ‘bible’ (the babylonian talmud) is the devil’s own.

    Remember dear reader, Christ’s letters to the seven churches at the beginning of the Revelation to John….Only two of the seven spiritual conditions in which He finds His children upon His return are approved of without censure….and both are in poverty, yet they are RICH in Holy Spirit. And BOTH have suffered at the hands of those who call themselves JEWS and are NOT, but of the synagogue of satan.

    SPEAK the TRUTH without fear regarding these ones….JUST as Christ and His disciples did.

    Stand UP and Lift Up your heads, for your redemption draws near.

    The hour is late, the harvest is great, and the workers are few….Stand and prove just Whose side you are on, while there is yet time to do so!

    Blessings in Christ

  13. Wayne Pacific April 9, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    Billy Graham preached way back in the 60’s that the day will come in America when Christians will be persecuted. That day is here.

    Ironic that Russia peacefuully (had to be God’s help) replaced the cruel violent Communists and is now a Orthodox Christain nation under Putin’s strong and sure leadership.

    The anti Christ was defeated in Russia and has come to America. Beware the Star of David.

  14. Anthony Clifton April 10, 2013 at 1:20 am

    Jesus commanded to put them in the ovens…! Matthew 13. [Obadiah]


    His messengers need only to tell the truth about the BACKGROUND CHECKS on the


    the word “government” defined for Americans according to the “documents” no where states



  15. Janice April 10, 2013 at 4:04 am

    What is a Hex? A curse (also called a jinx, hex or execration) is any expressed wish that some
    form of adversity or misfortune will befall or attach to some other entity. A curse is a judgement. Remember folks a rose is still a rose no matter how many times the word changes. Its a word game. And unless you understand the words, it becomes babble. It becomes a tower of babble. The mark of the beast, we are born with that mark, parents sign their own children into this debt system by means of their birth certifcate because of being deaf and blind(poor and ignorant). We were place into the “STATE” with our birth certifcate. You have the United States, then you have the Corporation of the “UNITED STATES OF”. You were born into this system with the mark already. Its about what your hand does, what your mind thinks. You are Ester stand before her uncle at the gate being ask if you think you are safe within these walls. Ever heard of “The Law of One”. Its so easy a child can understand all this. One word(remember its a word game) its about one word. That word is God. If GOD is LOVE, and LOVE is GOD, If Jesus said, “When you see me, you see the Father”, then you see LOVE. That cheif corner stone that is rejected is love. If motive derives action of charater, then what is your charater? Is your charater one of GODS(LOVE)? Its your choice, you can either hate or Love. That “Law of One” will keep you in line with the rest of the Laws(ten commandments). Not 1 commandment, or 3 commandment, but ALL 10 of them. GOD(LOVE) did not change his laws, ROME did. Who is it that thinks they are above the Law? Are you the snake who thinks he is above the Law. Rome change time and Law. What gate are you going to enter in? Moral Law and Ceremonial Law, Ceremonial Law was never meant to replace Moral Law, it was just the remedy to when Moral Law was broken. What is a remedy? A cure or treatment for a disease. What is the disease? Fallen man is the disease. People want their freedom, so you have to ask yourself “Do I put myself or others at risk with my actions”?. Cestui Que VieTrust, also known later as a “Fide Commissary Trust” and later again as a “Foreign Situs trust” and also known as a form of “Secret Trust”is a fictional concept being a Temporary Testamentary Trust, first created during the reign of Henry VIII of England through the Cestui Que Vie Act of 1540 and updated by Charles II through the Cestui Que Vie Act of 1666 wherein an Estate may be effected for the Benefit of one or more Persons presumed lost or abandoned at “sea” and therefore assumed/presumed “dead” after seven (7) years. Additional presumptions by which such a Trust may be formed were added in later statutes to include bankrupts, minors, incompetents, mortgages and private companies. I was not lost at sea(country, nation, kingdom), I am a free man on the land. I live in the shadow of the statue of the law, “THE LAW OF ONE”. I choose “The Law of Love”, no matter how much they try to make me hate others, I choose to Love. I am a living breath human, a child of love. I am not my strawman, I have a brain. I was born with everything I need. My body is the vessel and Love is my compass. I am the captian of my own ship. My vessel consist of mind, body and spirit. You have to have the blind and deaf(poor and ignorant) for this system to stay in place. No wonder they want to keep people poor and ignorant, because as long as they keep people poor and ignorant they stay in control of this estate(state). Hate devides, Love unites, I choose Love. Asking(as king(word game), what will you choose? Remember, the right answer to the wrong question is still the wrong answer. As for me and my family, we choose to live in the shadow of the statue of love. Oh how it must hurt the father(so much that he has to turn his back) to see the mother crying over a dead child. Peace to you all

  16. Neda Hall April 10, 2013 at 8:59 am

    The Christian’s Response to Government: Submitting to Government (Romans 13:1-7)
    Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil. Wherefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for conscience’ sake. For because of this you also pay taxes, for rulers are servants of God, devoting themselves to this very thing. Render to all what is due them: tax to whom tax is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor. (13:1-7)

    The monumental miracle of salvation impacts every relationship associated with the believer’s life. Paul upholds these implications as chapter 12 begins. First, and most important and obvious, is the effect on our relationship to God. When we are saved, our initial response should be to fully present our “bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is [our] spiritual service of worship” The apostle’s next concern is for our having a right relationship with our brothers and sisters in Christ and with non-Christians, including even our enemies. After dealing with those matters, the inspired writer focuses on the need to have a right relationship to the human governments under which we live (13:1-7).

    Every Christian, no matter what form of government he lives under, is under command from the Lord to maintain proper and useful submission to that government for the sake of leading a peaceful life and having an effective witness.

    But historically, Christians have been involved, frequently in the name of their faith, in the forceful overthrow of oppressive and sometimes despotic governments. Democracy and political freedom are commonly identified with Christianity. For such reasons it is difficult for many Christians to be clear, or even objective and honest, about a passage so unambiguously restrictive as Romans 13:1-7.

    The focus is shifted from the call to build the spiritual kingdom through the gospel to efforts to moralize culture—trying to change society from the outside rather than individuals from the inside. Our task is the proclamation of the gospel.

    It is not that Christians are not to be involved, sometimes directly, in civil government. It is certainly not that believers should avoid expressing their beliefs through voting for the best qualified political candidates and for sound legislation. That is part of doing good in our society . We should be grateful to God for civil freedom to worship, to preach and teach the gospel, and to live our lives almost without restriction. That is a nice privilege, but it is not necessary to the effectiveness of the gospel truth or to spiritual growth. We also should be grateful for, and, within reason, take advantage of our many legal and effective recourses for changing bad laws and bad governments and for promoting good ones. But that has nothing to do with the Christian’s priority of proclaiming the gospel and living a holy life to demonstrate that God is a saving God.

    What, then, is the Christian’s responsibility to society, and to government in particular, if we are to remain “aliens and strangers” in this world who have a platform to call people to salvation? How are we to live in the world but not be of it ? In the present text, Paul presents the two basic principles that answer those questions. First: Be subject to government ; and second: Pay taxes . Those commands summarize the Christian’s civic duty. It is through fulfilling those two obligations that we “render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and to God the things that are God’s” .

    The basic command is simple and succinct: Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. In the broadest sense, every person applies to every human being, because the principle stated here reflects God’s universal plan for mankind. But Paul is speaking specifically to Christians, declaring, in effect, that Christianity and good citizenship should go together. And, as he will continue to explain, subjection to the governing authorities includes much more than simply obeying civil laws. It also includes genuine honor and respect for government officials as God’s agents for maintaining order and justice in human society.

    Every civil authority is to be submitted to willingly. In his first letter to Timothy, Paul teaches “that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and all who are in authority, in order that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity” again with no exception related to the rulers’ competence or incompetence, morality or immorality, cruelty or kindness, or even godliness or ungodliness.

    Am I afraid of what is coming? NO!

  17. Beware the Wolves! April 10, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    Neda Hall epitomizes the wolf in sheep’s clothing that Jesus warned us about. Remember Satan liked to quote Scripture and was quite good at it too! A Satan Sausage is about giving you a sheath of truth, but the inside is all lies. Of course Neda is not afraid of what is coming, because Neda is a government shill and figures she will be on the victimizing end, rather than being victimized. Is there a possibility that Neda is merely ignorant and deceived? Possibly. But a person who is devoid of spiritual discernment is most likely bereft of the Spirit of Truth as well. One who so blatantly worships the state is an idolator at best, and I make a point of not taking an idolators interpretation of Scripture seriously. Do you really believe that 1Tim 5:8 would tell you that you are worse than an unbeliever if you do not care of your family financially, but somehow you are not obligated in the least to protect them? Does that make sense? So if the government wants to say rape your wife & daughters, kill your sons, and steal all your money to fund their human sacrifices to Lucifer, then it is Godly to comply? Do you become a good Christian by cooperating with the very things that would be a horrible sins for you to do on your own? Have you thought this out with more than a mm of depth? Most real Christians are not to be found in the Clergy Response Churches because they just won’t tolerate all the politically expedient twisting of Scripture like the robotic, zombie masses. With friends like these who needs enemies? These were the same ilk that ratted out the Jews hiding from Hitler. Remember they will kill you thinking they are doing a service to God? Do not associate with these wolves and call them out for what they are! Remember, the world government will require that you receive the mark of the Beast at some point. Will you try to justify your disobedience to God by quoting Romans 13 to the Almighty Himself? There is a reason it was Hitler’s favorite chapter! I guess we should count the Hebrew midwives, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego as dangerous, anti government renegades. Perhaps DHS should put them on the the terrorist watch list posthumously! No this kind of rhetoric is just a lame excuse for the fake Christians who want to lead cushy lives without hardship or persecution. Pastor Chuck Baldwin has written some excellent books on the subject of a Christian’s duty to government for all those “confused” “Christians”.

  18. mhz April 15, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    Bravo Neda Hall. These people who want to go down in a blaze of glory are ignoring the clear teaching of Scripture, as well as the legacy of the martyrs, of whom the Bible says, “..the world was not worthy.”

    These people refuse to obey the Biblical command to, “Love not your lives to the death.”

  19. FreeMan April 17, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    Don’t you just love it? Good information is provided and “sweet” Christians choose to remain so profoundly ignorant.

    Licking the boot of the oppressor will get you no where.

    Click on “FreeMan” (above) and listen to a few sermons. It’ll do you some good.

    Thanks for your comment, “Beware The Wolves”!

  20. [email protected] May 15, 2013 at 7:45 am

    just awesome!

Comments are closed.