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Why the Church Must Be Abandoned

Dave Hodges

February 13, 2014

The Common Sense Show


As a trained researcher, I appreciate the virtue of simplicity. You’ve probably heard this admonition before: The simplest explanation is usually the right one. Even police detectives use it to deduce who’s the likeliest suspect in a murder case. Physicians often ­use the principle to determine the illness behind a set of symptoms. This line of reasoning is called Occam’s razor.

Occam’s razor is utilized in numerous ways throughout the world as a means to decipher a problem or situation and eliminate all the extraneous variables. In other words, simplicity is your best friend. When faced with a decision on which is the m0ost likely strategy to be successful, generally, the most simple choice is your best bet.

For example, does Congress serve your needs, yes or no? Don’t complicate the issue. Can you even name one thing that this administration has done to help the middle class? Please name me just one thing that Obama has done to improve your life….

What has Obama done to strengthen the family? What has Obama done to improve the education of your children? What has Obama done to improve the economic plight of the American people? The SIMPLE truth is that Obama has not done a thing to help one American, not even one time. By using the principle of Occam’s Razor, it should be easy to determine if Obama is your enemy and needs to regarded as such in all matters.

Christianity Is America’s Last Hope

All of our social institutions have been corrupted and taken over by the forces of evil that we most often refer to as the New World Order. There is not even one institution which reflects the values of your family. If you doubt the veracity of this statement, then please answer the following questions.

Raise your hand if you parents feel that your child’s, anything goes, government school reflects the moral values of your family?

Raise your hand if you feel that our entertainment industry, which embraces every perversion known to man, reflects the moral values of your family?

Raise your hand if you feel the government reflects your belief in hard work, fairness and truly is representative of the moral values of your family?

These institutions are serving an agenda which is far different than you are teaching to your children. If you wonder why your children stray so far from their teachings, I have just identified three reasons why this is true.

Many feel that the one institution that has the capability to defend the beliefs that we hold dear is the church. Along these lines, I have one more question.

Raise your hand if you feel that the Church takes a stand against infanticide, wars of occupation that kill millions of innocent people, corrupt politicians, sexual perversion and government corruption?  I must be addressing people who either have no arms or who are horribly discouraged.

For most of you, your church has abandoned you just like the government, the entertainment industry and the schools. Where is a person to turn?

Christians Need to Embrace Occam’s Razor

If you are a true Christian, you must be really concerned about what is taking place inside of your church. The Bible says that to whosoever’s voice you will listen to, that he is your master. “He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God” (John 8:47).

To further Satan’s own success he must have a church, and this church will teach that Satan is God. In order to accomplish this goal, Satan must be very careful, very deceptive, very secretive. We are witnessing the silent takeover of the Church by the forces of evil in the Department of Homeland Security, the IRS and the government as a whole.

Above all else, the church should be calling government officials out when they violate the word of God. But instead, we are witnessing the opposite. Government doctrine is replacing the word of God in a furtherance of the grand deception.

All Hail the Government

The church has forsaken its role as the moral authority in the country and instead it is adopting the secular notion that government is all-knowing and all-powerful.

The forces of deception must employ more cunning here than ever before. No one must know that it is Satan’s church, and no one must find out that the modern-day church is the way to Hell. Christians have become confused because the doctrines and dogma of the religion have been complicated in order to obfuscate the truth.

In particular, Christians are the single most common group that needs to pay attention to the principles of parsimony. First of all, the Christian religion is based upon simplicity in which one is called to believe that Jesus is the son of God. Salvation comes through belief in Jesus Christ. Is it really that simple? Evil is long (i.e. the tax codes) and beauty and truth are simple (i.e. the principles of Christianity).

Christian doctrine does not teach that salvation comes from serving the government, but your church is teaching exactly that.

The modern interpretation of Romans 13 is pure blasphemy. This scripture has been morphed into a doctrine espousing the “Divine Right of Kings” in which God has somehow chosen a king to ruthlessly rule over a people and it is incumbent upon the people to accept their “God-given fate”,  The flock are commanded to “…submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.”  This false interpretation is nothing but a divine coronation of a ruthless, self-serving government and Christians are expected to capitulate and honor the same kind of thievery, lawlessness and murder which inspired Jesus to expel the moneychangers from the Temple. All hail the holy government.

What Kind of God Would Allow This?

The Clergy Response Team falls under the umbrella series of programs known as National Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster  (NOVAD) which is a non-profit, member organization which shares knowledge and resources throughout a disaster. These organizations are run by DHS/FEMA! This DHS/FEMA sponsored organization helps to prepare, respond, recover and to mitigate the damage caused by some unknown disaster presumably which lies in the future of humanity. However, this is the same organization which is training to confiscate guns and to use lethal force against protesters. Where is it written in the scripture that your pastor is to serve the secular Clergy Response Team? This, in all likelihood makes your pastor an employee of the federal government. Oh, and it gets worse.

According to the Internal Revenue Service, no substantial part of a religious, tax exempt church may engage in any activity which may be attempting to influence legislation and the church may not intervene in political campaigns. In other words, if the government decides to secretly disappear dissidents, the church must remain silent or risk losing its tax exemption. If the government continues to expand its infanticide policies by extending the murder of babies to include post-delivery abortion, then the church must remain silent. If the government engages in any heinous, genocidal act, such as the murder of 1.2 million Iraqis, under the false pretense of looking for weapons of mass destruction, the church must remain silent or risk losing the tax advantages for being a 501 (c)(3) tax exempt organization.

Combine the 501 (c)(3) financial motivation with the DHS inspired NOVAD directive for clergy to remind their flocks of their Christian duty to obey their government under any and all conditions, we are witnessing the neutering of our most precious institution and the ultimate salvation of millions could hang in the balance.

There is clearly a time when Christians should disobey civil authority. Acts 5:27-29 states that “Having brought the apostles, they made them appear before the Sanhedrin to be questioned by the high priest. We gave you strict orders not to teach in this Name,’ he said. ‘Yet you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and are determined to make us guilty of this man’s blood.’ Peter and the other apostles replied: ‘We must obey God rather than men!’ Could it be more clear that as long as the law of the land does not contradict the law of God, Christians are commanded to obey the government. However, if  the law of the government contradicts God’s word, Christians are commanded to disobey the government and obey God’s law.


The 501-C-3 tax exemption = 30 pieces of silver. 


The Solution

As America faces her biggest challenges in the days ahead, a strong, viable and strong faith is needed to weather the storm that is coming. The government has weakened your anchor of faith in much the same way that it has compromised the schools. So what is a good Christian to do?

What have parents done in response to schools who stand for nothing and embrace anti-family values? They have taken their children out of the schools and formed associations with other parents who have done the same.

The solution with regard to who controls the Church, the IRS or the Christians, has a solution. The answer is simple. Respectfully withdraw your membership from your tax exempt church and form a small Bible study group with friends and family. Keep the numbers low so that you do not run afoul of local zoning ordinances. Do not exchange money as this will give the IRS authority over you. After all, how much money do you need to run a home Bible study? You need a Bible, a voice and a place to sit. Your group can reach out to similar like-minded groups in order to criticize the government for its heinous positions on abortion and unwarranted wars of occupation. And if you are not a tax exempt organization, you may place blame where blame belongs as well as lobby for change. The churches of today need to crumble. Their pastors need to get a real job instead of pretending to serve the word of God. The authority of God, the Bible, needs to be taken back from the IRS, DHS, FEMA and money-serving pastors. If all Christians were to follow these suggestions, the Church, as we know it, would crumble. And the large-scale, money serving, government beholding churches need to fail. They need to be replaced by people who only have the goals of serving God. Please let me remind you of the admonition, “Thou shall have no other Gods before me”.

Some will criticize these solutions as being too simplistic. To that criticism, I would say “thank you” because I know from my life in academia, that Occam’s Razor works when it is applied properly.


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  1. iwitness02 February 13, 2014 at 5:37 am

    More nitty gritty. Makes my heart sing.

  2. Dan February 13, 2014 at 6:06 am

    Excellent work!

  3. Tony G February 13, 2014 at 6:12 am

    Good article. thank you.

  4. John Rambo February 13, 2014 at 6:13 am

    Very good Mr. Hodges. As I said, at this, the 11th and 1/2 hour, we need to focus on informing the police, military, and church leaders. Obviously we need to add to that the church MEMBERS … and you’re correct, the leadership needs to make a choice. I do believe though that a lot of pastors “just aren’t informed, and just don’t know what to do.” First, inform. THEN if they still want to be Judases say bye bye.

    Also, it seems we may have a new pecking order evolving in alternative media ? The guy at : Fromthetrenchesworldreport ( dot com, ) is really kickin it !!! He bad mouths Alex Jones a little. I think Alex is ok., but the guy made a point – His T-shirts are from China, and it seems he’s getting a little narcissistic and tries to get “everyone” to like him – seems brainwashed by the media in that in EVERY broadcast now announces he’s ‘not a racist!’ Pissing off 99 % of his audience to do what ? Was he paid to build a following and then move them center / left ? Maybe not. He likely just has no time to THINK and his show is suffering from trying to slam too much in ?

    Well I have a new point system : Anyone NOT for secession should not even be listened to anymore. We don’t have time to play games. Put Alex on 90 day probation. Also give John B. Wells ( Caravantomidnight – dot com, ) a 90 day probationary period too. If these two waste we patriots time telling us “they’re not racist,” AND not pushing secession … dump both for more keen observers of our present situation. Here’s the new pecking order :

    1. Fromthetrenchesworldreport
    2. Thecommonsenseshow
    3. Homelandsecurityus
    4. Southernnationalistnetwork
    5. Vdare
    6. Survive2thrive ( dot net ) = The Hawk. Also on csrivers channel on youtube – recent downloads.
    7. Stevequayle

    8. Caravantomidnight = 90 day probation – let’s see what he’s got.
    9. Infowars = 90 day probation. We don’t need a rollercoaster ride with brainwashed white guilt voice over. We need SECESSION!!! If doesn’t straighten up in next 90 days … leave him with his 1 % he seems so concerned about.

  5. skipNclair February 13, 2014 at 6:23 am

    Great article, confirming what some have known for decades. The Bible warns us that satan will sit at the head of the church, it warns us to leave her as she has been compromised. The heads of the churches today, are but mini anti-christ with no thought of teaching the true word of God, but using it for profit, and turning the people away from God. If people had only read their Bible rather then have it deciphered by the man on the pulpit for them, they would have been given true wisdom from God as opposed to the evil of satan. Run from her, for she is now wicked. I live my life by asking not what the church tells me, nor any form of govt. but what would God almighty have or want me to do. I obey no man made law that is against the word or laws of God.

  6. richard February 13, 2014 at 6:36 am

    I’ve been intently studying the teachings of Jesus and must say whoever really belongs to Him, that they take the words of Jesus above all others – including and especially Paul. Even the Father said “Hear Him”, and Peter quotes Moses in Acts 3;22,23 to warn we must be doing whatever He said – not just taking the very word of God to all men and filtering out whatever we don’t like or requires change in our life. There are two books that prove what we have in our Bibles is not all the words of God: “Not Paul, but Jesus” by Jeremy Bentham in the 1820’s and “Jesus’ Words Only” by Douglas DelTondo, about 2006. Christianity was hi-jacked by Paul. Jesus said all things hidden would be revealed – and this is one of those hidden matters of how the Roman Church foisted Paul upon everyone, when the original Church said he was a heretic.

    As John the Baptist said, whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever does not obey the Son will face the certain wrath of God. (John 3) The bride made herself ready – wash in His words that lead to life eternal and if you want to know the best Study Bible for His words, carefully consider the oldest manuscript translation from ancient Aramaic to English (167 AD manuscript) that is older than the Greek perversions – we’ve been had and our Bible publishers have had a direct hand in it.

    Read the end of the Revealing of Jesus Christ – no one will go to heaven or hell – except by their works. Faith alone nor grace alone will save anyone. If you love Jesus, you will keep His word, not Paul’s.

  7. Pastor Bob February 13, 2014 at 6:38 am

    Bro. Dave:

    Kudos many times over. I am a 76-year old retired pastor and I could not have said it better myself.
    You hit the nail on the head when it comes to calling it correctly. Over the past thirty years the solid teaching and hearing of the Word has been abandoned by clergy and laity alike. Between the health, wealth and prosperity teaching, and the marriage of patriotism with the Gospel, the church has long lost its voice of moral authority. I found your article both refreshing but more so a revived sense of hope that others have witnessed what I have seen happen. I was forced out of a denomination that sold out to the homosexual/lesbian agenda. In the battle for truth I lost but I sleep well at night. Tolerance is not a virtue, despite what the liberal church leadership would want people to believe. I am forced to live on $750 a month social security, and I wish I could support your work because it means so much to me. You have my prayers and moral support.

    God bless,

    Pastor Bob

  8. Tim February 13, 2014 at 6:46 am

    Dave: Thanks for stating publicly what I believe and have watched now for several years. The Evangelical church is consumed with big numbers, big programs, big events, but does little to nothing about real spiritual growth of disciples. And you are absolutely correct, it all goes back to the worship of money through the tax exempt status it worships. I believe the “house of the Lord ” will soon be cleansed in a way the pastors do not see and which will mortify them. When the great American financial collapse finally hits with full force, they will have no “pieces of silver” to keep the lights on, pay the staff, etc. Their huge monuments to size and numbers will be shuttered and I pray the true spiritual church will emerge as small community groups who will be focused on truly doing the will of the Father in heaven.

  9. Country Codger February 13, 2014 at 6:49 am

    Great article Dave! We have discussed this very thing on numerous occasion in our congregation. We do not have a 501 c3, don’t want it and do not desire it. Hope all goes well for you and yours in 2014.

  10. Kenneth February 13, 2014 at 6:50 am

    No one in the bible has ever talked bad about the country’s leaders beside john the Baptist against harod but that was becouse he was king over Israel but all threw the old and New Testament it teaches that u should not talk bad about ur dignitaries. The reason that bad leaders amerge is becouse of the wickedness of the populations and then gods judgement comes. It’s All threw out the Old Testament. This nation needs to repent and turn to the mercy of god. And my belief is no one can tell u not to preach Christ and to not preach against abortion and homosexual behavior that when u mind god instead of man!!!what we are witnessing today is a changing over of seasons were the the grace is about to leave and Jesus wrath is about to begin then the wrath of god comes. Only repentance in this last hour that were in will change the severity of what’s to come here in America. All I can say is come quickly lord. Let god finish this work here on earth so we can live the rest of eternity under our divine and glorious king our lord and savior Jesus Christ

  11. Preacher February 13, 2014 at 6:51 am

    AMEN!!!! I too pray for your safety Brother Dave and that God will lead us thru this. We are doing as you say and it works. I hope more listen and join in. Its a fools who drinks the kool-aid and take the free stuff that he will pay with his life.

  12. End time servant February 13, 2014 at 7:04 am

    A wake up call for those new world order Romans following imposters as Pope starting with john number 23 till present francis the destroyer and communist first this so called religion in Rome is not catholic it is a new religion all of it last thing changed exorcism rites now mean nothing next Father Malachi Martin stated all these imposters signed the agreement that let the luciferians and there minions control the true church for there purpose next the truth Our Lady warned us in 1846 her statement said(Rome will loose the faith and Become the seat of the antichrist and the true church will be in eclipse ) done deal completed in 1963 lucifer was enthroned in popes chapel better yet up pops up lucifers symbol that the imposter carrys The Broken Cross mark of the Beast stop watching tv stop wasting your funds supporting Rome start by getting on your knees and live as a real God fearing person this site has told much truth and Mr Hodges has been given grace from heaven to keep warning you very sad where the true supposed confirmed Catholics well there partying like Francis said do not fear your salvation enjoy enjoy before your judgement

  13. Robert February 13, 2014 at 7:07 am

    About 2,000 years ago, someone else called for a radical change at the places we worship. I recall He even disrupted the selling of sacrifices and turned over the money changers tables. Wasn’t that Jesus?

  14. William B Stoecker February 13, 2014 at 7:36 am

    I believe in God, moral absolutes, and an afterlife, but I am not a Christian. So I am very reluctant to criticize Christians; indeed, I truly believe that true Christians (and religious Jews as well) are among the most moral and honorable people on Earth. Without the efforts of Christian patriots, especially Catholics, we would have no patriot movement (although the founder of the John Birch Society, Robert Welch, was not a Christian, but had beliefs virtually identical to my own).
    Yet when true Christians like Mr. Hodges and Chuck Baldwin warn Christians about churches that serve, not God, but the enemy, people should take notice. There has long been overwhelming evidence that at the highest levels the Catholic Church is utterly corrupt, and more than one priest has spoken of the sexual perversion and satanic worship in the Vatican. The leadership of the various Orthodox churches is just as bad, and the Episcopalian/Anglican leadership supports the pervert agenda. Most of the other large Protestant churches are equally corrupt; remember that abortionist Tiller the Killer was a deacon in a Lutheran church.
    So Christians and Jews must heed the warnings of Mr. Hodges and Mr. Baldwin. If your church or synagogue is corrupt, if your minister collaborates with the government, leave that church and join a better one or gather together with like-minded Christian patriots and form your own worship group. And, above all, do not leave your children in the soul-destroying indoc centers (formerly called schools) or you will have to answer to God.

  15. Dave L February 13, 2014 at 8:09 am

    Dave, You’ve written about this before and I for one, believe that you are doing a tremendous service in repeating this message – people need to pull themselves out of the pews of complacency and recognize those pews are in those churches are anvils around their ankles and those anvils are about to be thrown into the abyss!

    People, wake up you are not in a ‘real’ sanctuary! When that anvil goes – so will you!

  16. Anonomous February 13, 2014 at 8:10 am

    It sounds like somebody has poisoned the well here. How much time needs to pass before you realize that God’s kingdom is here now? You make the same mistake the Jews did. God’s kingdom is not a literal on, but a kingdom of the heart. By continuing to wait for a physical kingdom you mock him on the cross


  17. mao February 13, 2014 at 8:18 am

    The congregation reflects the pulpit or is it the other way around. They are lost.

  18. Bobc February 13, 2014 at 8:26 am

    Small bible groups. “…that those who could swim should jump overboard first and get to land. And the rest, some on boards and some on parts of the ship. And so it was that they all escaped safely to land.” Acts chapter 27 verses 43,44

  19. de February 13, 2014 at 8:28 am

    There are some Churches that do criticize the gov and are awake to what is going on. I’ve been to one. The pastor tells it like it is. There are others that participate in a movement (can’t recall the name right now) that do “politically incorrect” sermons that most churches don’t dare teach, then send the transcript to the IRS to tell them that the church will decide what they will preach, not the IRS. There are several thousands of Churches that do this every year, and so far they have been left alone.
    I have the organization name at home. I’ll post the link later today.
    I did ask my (now ex) pastor to participate. He told me “it’s not nice to poke the government with a stick”. That told me all I needed to know. We left.


  20. MarcMaximus February 13, 2014 at 8:31 am

    Off the topic, but alarming video. maybe this will get attention of your friends, relatives, family members who keep saying, “I don’t see any weeds in the garden.”

  21. de February 13, 2014 at 8:52 am
  22. Craig Mouldey February 13, 2014 at 8:58 am

    As far as government and government agencies or individual politicians or parties I start out not trusting them. This is my default position unless they prove to me they have strong pure motives that will not be shaken. They all appear to be following the same play book of an agenda that is evil. I will not vote for the lesser of 2 evils, which still leaves me supporting evil.
    We tried to find a biblical church. No success yet. they like to use para phrase ‘bibles’ which are not bibles at all. they never confront evil in society or evil committed by our governments. They may ‘support the troops’ even if those troops find themselves stuck in an evil, unjust war. But they have lots of programs to divide and occupy the members and how they love their music! I’ve even tried to share with one pastor some things really going on behind the scenes. he told me he didn’t want to hear any more about it! I saw a video yesterday that I can’t get out of my head. A young Syrian woman was strangled to death by these bloodthirsty murdering monsters our government is supporting, while others looked on. Christians are being slaughtered there but not a word of condemnation from any churches. They are all going to get their day to face the same. Of this I have no doubt. In the mean time I take comfort in the Lord’s words “Where 2 or 3 are gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst”.

  23. Dan February 13, 2014 at 8:59 am

    Kudos to Richard for bringing up and endorsing the very root of the church apostasy, the being Red Letter christians. He brings up the writings of homosexuals to show that Paul is wrong and that the entire message to the church is comprised in what Jesus said, and more importantly, what Jesus didn’t say. The Words of Jesus (actually, lack of words) are the basis for homosexual acceptance, the prosperity teachings, even multiple marriages. If we are to base entirely on Jesus Words in the Gospel, then as He said to the Samaritan, “what have I to do with you”. As Gentiles we have no hope because Jesus came to the Jew, preached to the Jew, discipled the Jew, and died with the Jew.

    It wasn’t until Jesus died and He promised His Holy Spirit, the counselor and revealor, the power, to men, and the the basis of the redeemed church came to be, including Gentiles. Remove or water down the Epistles and you have a limp-wristed, opaque, powerless church.

    Again, thank you for revealing the foundations behind the Apostasy….

  24. Linda Williams February 13, 2014 at 9:02 am

    The above piece raises very important considerations. It is essential to realize who is running the church and what is being advocated. However, we must consider whether the answer is to abolish the church and all other organizations, which at the moment are providing unwholesome doctrines. If they are circumvented and replaced piecemeal, will that ultimately strengthen a nation? Will it be possible to rebuild them rapidly, once they are dismantled or will the nation remain highly vulnerable without them? If you do not like the fact that the wrong persons are in power, directing the military at the moment, does it follow that it is best to abolish the military and replace its systems of air, land and water-based weapons systems, personnel and protocols with sticks and slingshots? Similarly, for the education system. Will abolishing all institutions weaken the nation or strengthen it?

    The globalist goal is the dismantling of all civilization and the dividing of all good people, in order to incapacitate and weaken humanity so that the knock out blow can be delivered. These are critical times. Once we are held in metal chains, we will not escape, no matter how many become motivated.

    Instead of abandoning church, school, the media and other institutions, Americans could, instead, come together and discuss and “supplement” the dangerous teachings with healthy ones. It would them be possible to resume control of these institutions at a later time, rather than attempting to rebuild them from scratch. To immunize ourselves from church teachings, we could attend, but meet socially afterward and find succinct countering ideas and language that will protect our citizens.

    It is helpful to see these website references from John Rambo. I just checked some information on southernnationalistnetwork for the first time.
    If my reasoning above applies, would it make sense for a large contingent of highly motivated people from the “north” to join the south for succession and then the south consolidate in order to retake the “north?”

  25. Mrs. Winters February 13, 2014 at 9:10 am

    My church does not give money to the IRS. My shepherds do not preach to obey the government. Quite the opposite. We are back to the catacombs, worshiping in homes, barns, and rented rooms.

  26. sayless February 13, 2014 at 9:17 am

    Jesus didn’t disrupt the Temple service of sacrifice. He disrupted the men who were making money off the currency exchange rate at the expense of the visiting worshippers: they were called moneychangers.

  27. David in AZ February 13, 2014 at 9:19 am

    End Time Servant…. You are believing what you read in the MSM and what you have been taught of the Roman Catholic Church since you were an infant. Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself told us “If the persecuted Me they will persecute you.” He also said, “You are Peter and upon this rock I will build My Church and the Gates of hell will not prevail against her.” Please understand that satan despises the Roman Catholic church. Yes, there are evil based souls in the Roman Church as well as ALL other churches as plainly laid out in this article; however, the reason so many folks put blame on the Catholic church is because satan has set it in their hearts that she is an abomination. She is not. She is the one true church founded by our Lord and, trust me, if not trust Jesus, the Roman Catholic Church is not a harlot or an abomination. She is the foundation upon which all other Christian Churches have been founded. I am obviously a Catholic and I thank God everyday for His Graces and forgiveness. Yes we are going to go through a number of “challenges” as we all take a bite of the end time sandwich but the Catholic church, unlike most other “Christian” churches does not condemn them or call names in order to create division and spread hate. No, She has and continues to make every attempt to calm the hate and bring the Peace of Christ to the world. As far as your comments re the different popes… you judge extremely poorly and from and obviously uninformed position. I truly pray your eyes are opened to the truth and that your heart will not be so hardened..dj.

  28. Widetracker February 13, 2014 at 10:11 am

    Put on “the whole armour of God” (“The Force”) and fight with the “Sword of the Spirit,” which is The Word of God or TRUTH or CHRIST who has “the two-edged sword” (“Light-Sabre”) that comes out of His mouth and yours, when He lives in you because the “Self” is dead and then tell people about the wonderful Kingdom, here on Earth, that they can ALL share, IF they help you to convince everyone to turn away from politics and religions (which most people hate anyway already) to Theocracy and God’s Kingdom, where there is no crime because there are NO POOR PEOPLE (no poverty). http://jahtruth.net/

  29. TTS February 13, 2014 at 10:18 am

    Great work Mr. Hodges!

  30. MondoPissed February 13, 2014 at 10:23 am

    Take care in running the small Bible group. Organize as if you are a Christian in Russia, with the Jewish Cheka lurking and waiting to kill you. My advice if you are in the city, do not publicize, and keep the group small, and avoid social media. I have read of Bible study groups being harassed and shut down for “community impact”, usually parking. I knew one group who got around that by parking at a shopping center, and going to the meeting house in a van. If you are not a 501c organization, you are the enemy and will be harassed. Of course in much of rural America you are still free to meet with others as you wish – but I expect that will soon change.

  31. KAREN February 13, 2014 at 10:36 am

    Yes, it is very, very sad and at the same time an ominous sign for this country. Organized religion in whatever form it has taken here over at least the last century has been watered down by the doctrines of men and so many denominations. I don’t know when churches became more and more just social gathering places, but it did happen by and large. Mega churches, feel good messages, prosperity gospel. Dying to self to follow after Jesus? and be led by the Holy Spirit? So diminished today by all the attractions and supposed choices. To be sure, corruption indwells the church of today.

    Lust of the eyes, lust of the flesh, the pride of life. Churches are filled with this attitude today. And, of course, that means the people are not able to see or hear what is really going on.

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  34. Hindsfeet February 13, 2014 at 11:39 am

    Amen and HALLELUJAH!
    I agree with home Bible study/fellowship, and have been in one for years.
    1 John 25-27
    25. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
    26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
    27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

    Eph. 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love.

    Did you ever hear any of the following in a brick and mortar church?

    All the blessings of salvation are communicated according to God’s eternal counsels, and it was for the whole of election of grace (and none others) that Christ wrought salvation. The very first chapter of the New Testament announces that Jesus “shall save His people from their sins:” not “may,” but “shall”; not shall offer to or try to, but actually “save” them. Again; not a single soul had ever benefited from the death of Christ if the Spirit had not been given to apply its virtues to the chosen seed. Any man, then, who omits the Father’s election, and the Spirit’s sovereign and effectual operations, preaches not the gospel of God, no matter what be his reputation as a “soul winner”.” —A. W. Pink (1886–1952)The Attenuated Gospel

    “The Gospel is not an “offer” to be bandied around by evangelical peddlers. The Gospel is no mere invitation but a proclamation, a proclamation concerning Christ! true, whether men believe it or not. No man is asked to believe that Christ died for him in particular.

    The Gospel is the means which God uses in the saving of His own chosen ones.”-A.W. Pink The Sovereingty of God

    “The idea of Christ as Shepherd necessarily implies that there is a chosen flock.
    Christ is the Shepherd of the sheep and not of the wolves (Luke 10:3) nor of the goats, for He has received no charge from God to save them. How the basic truth of particular redemption stares us in the face in innumerable passages throughout the Scriptures! “He did not lay down His life for the whole herd of mankind, but for the flock of the elect which was given to Him by the Father.” A.W. Pink-Guide to Fervent Prayer

    I believe the Pulpit Puppeteers have misunderstood The Gospel. Jesus said if you love me, feed my sheep….NOT FLEECE them.

    The New World Order with The One World Church, guess which Chrurch? Read the book by the late Rev. Alexander Hislop, The Two Babyons.
    First published as a pamphlet in 1853–greatly expanded in 1858
    You may read it on-line here:

    Keep the Faith!

  35. Ben February 13, 2014 at 11:54 am

    reply to Richard. Words of Jesus. If I understand you and your theory on faith, than the thief on the cross will not see paradise with Christ, since he must rely on his works. Even though Jesus said he would. What about John? All of his teachings? Did not Jesus say,” no one will get to the father except through him!” Is not Jesus,”not works,” the answer to who will go to hell or heaven? What of 1 John 5: 3-5 3For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome. 4For whatever is born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. 5Who is the one who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? I also would be serious and fearful in any undertaking of adding or taking away any words of the Bible. Revelation 22: 18-19 Your theory disallows any sanctification. No room for repentance which brings God glory! It is found in all the Bible old and new. Isaiah 1:16-17 wash yourselves. Learn to do good. Jesus himself said there is no one, not one good. Who are we to dispute his words? This may be crude, but only way I can clarify this. Can a murderer wash his bloodstained shirts clean? Or does it really come down to a belief in Christ and HIS righteousness to make that person clean? Isaiah has taught me that I need to learn to do good and proverbs 8 is too me a personal letter from Jesus stating who he is and why we need to believe.I also seem to recall words from Peter about Paul and he had no fault with him, except that his words may be hard for some folk to understand. There are so many people that seem to want to throw out the Bible as not true because of other things. I wonder why the first thing Jesus would tell his disciples especially about the last days was to not be deceived.The original church sent Paul out to missions for them. Heretic? Well I suppose we should allow the book of Mormon and the lost book of Judas too.My answer to the KJV folks and others that want division in believers.Luke 9:49-50
    God Bless

  36. niebo February 13, 2014 at 12:43 pm

    Mr. Hodges: For months I have been running into your articles on various sites, so last month I made the leap to the “source”, as it were, and have since been reading and catching up on your radio archives, and, well, I am moved to comment: Grace and peace to you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ! I have witnessed first-hand (as the son of a preacher) the ‘falling away”, and I have not attended for over a decade for that reason. The Bible (NOT the pulpit) is the source of the truths of God!

    @ Richard: 2 Peter 3:15-17, Peter calls Paul “beloved” and speaks in his defense, “. . .brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him. . . . There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do other scriptures. You, therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, beware lest you be carried away with the error of lawless men and lose your own stability.” RSV

    If the Bible be considered our rulebook, we must conduct a debate regarding “orthodoxy” accordingly, not looking to outside sources but by establishing our position with testimony given, received, and recorded therein..

  37. William February 13, 2014 at 1:15 pm

    America, throw off the YOKE of Israel.
    America is like MASTER-BLASTER in “Thunderdome”. The dwarf Israel controlling the retarded giant:
    “christian-zionism” is today’s JUDAS ISCARIOT .
    America & Christians have been YOKED by those who crucified Our Lord.
    In the bible the Jews BRAG about how they parasitically controlled Egypt AND Babylon. The bible clearly tells how Abraham twice “pimped” his own wife for monetary gain from Kings of GOOD character. Then ignorant people say one is wrong to talk about Jews controlling things. TRY READING THE BIBLE, the jews BRAG about it, insinuating themselves into positions of power is part of their culture.
    The Jews want to rebuild their “temple” so they can return to ANIMAL/BLOOD sacrifices, where they smear the blood of the animal all over (the bible describes in detail how they should rub blood all over themselves) and burn the corpse for a “PLEASING ODOR onto “their” lord”. The first 9 chapters of Leviticus involve detailed instructions for sacrificing live animals to their god. The Jews worship a WAR god. The CRUCIFIXTION of JESUS CHRIST was the FINAL sacrifice. Or don’t any of you EVER read the Bible?
    Isreal worships a WAR god. Christians have no business supporting or associating with WAR god worshipers. The only Jews Christians should embrace are those Jews who see the LIGHT and convert. WAR god followers do not embrace PEACE.
    “Judeo-Christian” is an OXYMORON. WAR-God vs PEACE-God. The Old Testament followers worship a WAR GOD and spend their lives hating, reliving every imagined slight, and dreaming of VENGENCE ….. “NEVER FORGIVE and NEVER FORGET” …. they still go on about Egypt and Babylon after MILLENIA. New Testament followers (are supposed to) worship a loving, forgiving God, and to CLOSE the Old Testament, as it has been FULLFILLED by the Crucifixion of Jesus. If you are following the OLD Testament you ARE NOT and CANNOT be a CHRISTian.
    “ANTI-Christ” does not get any greater then to CRUCIFY HIM. There is a MYTH that attempts to shift blame for the crucifixion onto Rome but the Priests sending SAUL of TARSUS and others to HUNT His followers right after the crucifixion PROVES that that is a lie. The Priests also instigated POGROMS against the early Christians. Judaism IS the ANTI-CHRIST.
    “christian-zionism” is the modern day JUDAS ISCARIOT, attacking CHRISTianity while feigning to BE Christian. Kissing Christ on the cheek for the Temple Priests.
    Jews, even to this day, refuse to set aside 2,000 years of venomous hatred for Our Savior.
    “Every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is the spirit of Antichrist. He is the spirit of Antichrist who denies that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah.” — (I John 2:22; 4:3)

    “My opinion of Christian Zionists? They’re scum. But don’t tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now.” — Benyamin Netanyahu, Israeli prime minister
    Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu is demanding that the Palestinians recognize Israel as a “Jewish state.” (http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2014/01/the-jewish-state-in-question.html) But Here in America the Jewish Lawyers in the ACLU will not allow YOU to put a Nativity on your own townhall lawn, much less recognize this as a CHRISTIAN Nation.

  38. matt6-33 February 13, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    My church IS a 501c3 and has recently radically accelerated the time line in which it is to be completely paid off precisely because the leadership is Holy Spirit led and is well aware that these are perilous days. Jesus, the wickedness of this world and increasingly controlled by satan and repentance are taught weekly. A Holy Spirit led church is a rock and if the economic collapse comes prior to this church’s bill being paid – the remnant of the church will rise up and shelter, pray with power and authority and continue in its current mission of living out Jesus will on the sidewalks and alleys and tent cities and home-steads of it’s members and all those who have eyes and ears to receiving the Gospel. In the meantime pray for your enemies – all of ’em, fight the good fight, do not grow weary, memorize psalms 91 and as much of the bible as possible. The Kingdom is within. God is fighting for us. Greater works we shall do. Signs and wonders follow those who belong to Jesus… The weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty… We wrestle not against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities…do not love the things of This world… This is not my home… Jesus is The King of kings and Lord of lords. Follow him (let the dead bury the dead). Radical times are here. Follow Jesus/Yashua with your brethren.

    Shalom !



  39. JayJay February 13, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    Have packs of card present..it isn’t Bible study–it’s a card party.
    I am saving free literature sent from a church for when TSHTF. May come in handy.
    Am also gathering free Bibles or those for $1 or less at flea markets.

  40. JayJay February 13, 2014 at 1:53 pm

    ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’

  41. JayJay February 13, 2014 at 1:55 pm

    My thoughts? How many of those huge institutions are housing the cold in these trying climates?/
    Huh?? Any of them??

  42. Jon February 13, 2014 at 1:57 pm

    Most of the time I appreciate your articles. Today, you painted all churches and pastors with a broad, black brush. Your credibility, with me, has suffered a huge hit. There are many churches holding firm to the Lord and His Word in America and, not without persecution. Perhaps, a study of what’s happening outside major churches would have gained you a clearer picture of some hopeful things His grassroots followers are doing. Thanks, Jon


  43. Cindylu February 13, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    My dear Dave, My husband and I both think that you are wrong to paint all pastors and churches with one brush. We know many pastors who do not fit into your parameters of basically working for the government. Also, you pretty much have to have a 501-3c if you want to operate and give your money to the poor and needy. I’m sure there are some churches that are folioing along the path you are suggesting, but I think that has more to do with the congregants being sheeple than the pastor selling out. If you don’t like your mega church, or agree with it’s values, then find a small one that suits you better. Please don’t say that all churches are bad. You might give someone the wrong idea about God. It’s hard enough in this sinful world we live in to follow a Christian path please don’t make it any harder.


  44. Billy Bones III February 13, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    Thanks for that Dave
    I’ve worked fairly close with my pastor for many years and have noticed how important numbers are. This mentality is prevalent in all areas of secular and Christian lives.
    I attended a End-times conference recently in one of the Pacific northwest states and was amazed at how popular the session on finances was. When this clean cut articulate young man stepped up to the podium nearly everyone sat up straight in their chairs. Now there is nothing wrong with being a good money manager but I have to say, this put me ill at ease because some very powerful Christian speakers preceded him. I really believe we need a financial crash to wake up and sift out the fakes from our church bodies, maybe even bankrupt some – churches. Maybe even a few less luxury cars in the church parking lots.

  45. CS Murphy February 13, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    Nice one, Dave.

  46. Khun Dang February 13, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    Religion is a man-made control paradigm. Religion and state have always worked hand in hand to enslave humanity. Religion provides the culture and propaganda needed to brainwash people into accepting obedience and slavery to state authority. Religion has nothing to do with God the creator, and God has nothing to do with religion. To discern the nature of God you only need to look inside yourself, look at the natural world, and use your mind to discern the truth. We do not need authority figures with holy books telling us what is right and wrong. Church authorities are and always have been members of occult secret societies – they are the synagogue of Satan. The Old Testament was first published by Babylonian Talmudic rabbis. The New Testament was first published by a Roman Cesar, and later revised by the Rosicrucian witches Francis Bacon, King James and John Dee. The Rapture deception was introduced by a con man named Cyrus Scofield and published by the Freemasons who run the Dallas Theological Seminary. Abandon these tyrants, their religious frauds, and their man-made books. Stop feeding the Beast, and free your mind

  47. John February 13, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    It’s pretty easy for a pastor at even the theologically correct churches to steer clear of real world events and talk only of the ethereal. It’s all about God and let’s all dwell on the particulars of some ancient biblical story , never in a lifetime actually deal with societal events devouring our lives. I could go into specifics, but why bother? It is what it is, and even those who tithe in response to the feel-good sermons may be unpleasantly surprised at the Pearly Gates when God deducts all the tax-write offs from their heavenly reward.

  48. Khun Dang February 13, 2014 at 3:16 pm

    I have a couple of questions for some of your readers. It can easily be verified that there is no letter “J”, or a phonetic sound like this, in the Aramaic (Hebrew) alphabet. Not once during the life of Yeshua did his mother, or anyone else, call him Jesus, which is derived from the name of the Greek god Zeus. FIrst, who changed the name of the Hebrew prophet to a greek god? And second, why would you believe that Yeshua would listen to your prayers to a greek god? If your name was Tom, but I insisted on calling you George, would you listen to me? The religious parasites have decieved you. Stop feeding the Beast, and free your minds.

  49. Daniel LeBlanc February 13, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    Yes we have to seriously think about leaving the fallen mainline Church. The curtain (like in Alice in Wonderland) is beginning to part raveling what is done in secret by those having wealth and power in this world. I have warned my family regarding this in a blog I posted. (No books to sell, no organization to join, not seeking a following, just challenging those who view it to seriously “think for themselves.”
    Best wishes to all until we meet on the other side.

  50. Guns N Rosaries February 13, 2014 at 3:43 pm


    Martin Luther, the father of all protestant sects, is also the father of total state and total war. Just look at the immediate results after the start of his revolution. The first protestants, i.e., Lutherans, Anabaptists and Anglicans all left the Catholic Church to start their own sects, which then multiplied again and again. Now, these same protestant leaders and most of the members of their sects have abandoned any remaining allegiance to the Christian (Catholic) teachings of Jesus, thus the concern mentioned in the above article. Rome, since 1963, has been enthroned to the devil….have you noticed the downfall of society since then? Luther said the current Pope in his day was the Antichrist…since the end of the world did not occur then, Luther became a false prophet. Since Luther is a false prophet just like Mohammed, ALL PROTESTANT SECTS WERE THE CREATION OF A FALSE PROPHET, JUST LIKE ISLAM WAS THE CREATION OF MOHAMMED.

    Bottom line? All men will take the mark, Apoc 13. This excludes traditional, apostolic, biblical, historical and militant Christians, i.e., Catholics.

    You have a choice….take the mark, be killed, or convert to the religion of Jesus Christ, which is traditional Catholicism. The history, the teachings, the doctrine, the saints, the miracles and the authority are there, and since you can obviously now see that Rome has abandoned the faith, let me now say that Rome is about to become the seat of Antichrist. When the collapse comes, a vacuum will be created, or perhaps the Antichrist will reveal ALL of the treason that the elite have foisted upon the world, or perhaps he will stop WW III when we are right on the brink, or perhaps he will stop a brief series of wars, chaos, anarchy, famine & pestilence after these plagues have run their course for a while. Throw in a few false miracles and give men the devil’s idea of hope and some bread for their belly and humanity ought to then be ready AND willing to take the mark. Please research vaticancatholicdotcom before it’s too late. At the very least you will find the information fascinating.

  51. Mark Brander February 13, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    Excerpted from prophecies.org

    “Let me say this, My Child, that all, who enter into a covenant with Lucifer are marked by him. All churches, which have agreed to the 501 ( c) 3 have entered into a covenant with Lucifer, Satan, the devil and he has marked them. He has claimed them. This mark takes several forms and has several levels. One is the physical mark, a mark of ownership in the hand and forehead. Another is a spiritual mark, a spiritual covenant or agreement with Satan, Lucifer, the devil, which is binding spiritually. A third is an eternal agreement, which is binding through the eternities.”

    “And, what might the eternal agreement be?”

    “A total renunciation of Me and My Son and a declaration that one is god!”

    “My Father, this is what Lucifer, Satan, the devil, did when he started the war against you in Heaven!”

    “This is so. He said, “I am God,” and he fought Me. One Third of the hosts of Heaven also claimed themselves as gods, and they fought and were expelled. Nowadays, you have in the Earth ignorant souls, who have willfully entered into a covenant with Satan, Lucifer, the devil and they espouse his teachings, calling themselves gods. They have totally rebelled against Me and have sided with Lucifer in his on-going war.”

    “So, My Father, this war in Heaven just goes on down through the ages and Lucifer is continuing to build up his army with human souls, who say they are gods, and that they are truly parts of his army, making an eternal covenant with Lucifer that they are gods.”

    “This is so; and you see this in freemasonry and all religions and organizations, which have been founded by freemasonry.”

    “Oh, My! My Father, I understand that the Mormon Church was founded by freemasons and that even today Satanic sacrifices of humans, especially children, are done in the subterranean levels of these temples.”

    “This is so.”

    “And, some of the leaders are reptilian shapeshifters.”

    “This is so.”

    “And, My Father, they espouse eternal marriage and until recently, as I understand it, all took blood oaths in these temples.”

    “This is so.”

    “And, the Mormons are told that they are gods, gods in the making.”

    “You have known this to be true and it is yet true.”

    “But, My Father, you are saying that these people are entering into an eternal covenant with Lucifer.”

    “They have done it; and they know it not!”

    “But, My Father, is the penalty different for one, who enters into such a covenant, knowing that they have entered into a covenant with the devil, than if they do not know?”

    “Yes, indeed, but many know! The freemasons take increasingly more severe oaths until they give away all to Lucifer. They do so willingly, knowing what they are doing; and by the time that they reach the 32nd and 33rd degrees, they know exactly what they have done. Those, who enter, are dupes! But, My Child, member the beautiful cloth. They take what is good and of Me, what is Biblical and they mix it with all, which is dark and full of lies, which is of the devil. Mormonism is a huge diabolical cult. The people are in bondage, and they know it not! They believe many lies and willingly allow themselves to be controlled by reptilian hoards. Many of the Mormon children are sacrificed to the devil in the bowels of these temples and many little and precious children are sodomized and raped. Their lives are ruined. Many others are used by Lucifer in his mind control programs all over the USA and around the world. Yes, indeed, the church of Mormon is the devil’s church, yet they are all made to believe a lie that this is the only true church. I ask you, My Child, when My Son, Yeshua, was on the Earth, what church did he belong to?”


    “My Child, My church is free. It has My Son at the head. Those, who preach and teach at My Church are free; for they espouse no denomination. My gifts of Spirit flow freely in My Church; for it is not bound by shackles of the world. Those, who go in and out of My Church are healed and set free; for My true leaders are free. I am your Father in Heaven and we shall speak more on this.”

    As witnessed, dictated and recorded this 8th day of June, 2001,
    Linda Newkirk

  52. JayJay February 13, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    **did ask my (now ex) pastor to participate. He told me “it’s not nice to poke the government with a stick”. That told me all I needed to know. We left.*8

    Good for you..Good move.
    And for all those attending churches that shun the prepper topic, even when encouraged to teach it, I suggest you also find a new church or stay home and enjoy that one on one relationship with God, our Creator.

  53. NW Native February 13, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    As was written in a prior comment the US government is at war with the American people. Dave is totally correct as concerns 501(c)3 religious congregations. It seems that there is a symbiotic relationship between the laity and the clergy of nearly all churches; Catholic, Protestant and all the other sects of the Christian faith. In this relationship the pastorate will most often tell his or her’s congregation what the faithful want to hear. If most of the laity think big government is just peachy keen, then that’s what they will hear or most often not hear from the pulpit. If they believe in paying taxes to the Federal leviathan, (financing their own destuction) then that’s Ok to. There is a multitude of ways in which one way or the other knowingly or unknowingly that the Christian church via the beliefs of the laity coupled with the word from the pulpit says very little or nothing about the socialist NWO take down of the American Constitutional Republic. Hence, the NWO elitist war on the American people.
    This war on the people in all of it’s manifestations is spiritual, biological, environmental, political and all the other ways that Dave has outlined on this site.

    War is a very nasty business and as the later day American Bolsheviki move towards their end game it’s anyone’s guess as to how this will all play out. Will God in His all encompassing wisdom help the “faithful” who seem at this time unwilling or unable to help themsleves? Or will God stand back and allow things to play out to it’s final conclusion? If history is any guide considering the Crusades, 30 year and 100 year religious wars in Europe where “Christians” (Whites) were killing one another with abandon, dido for the Napoleonic wars; and then there’s the socialist driven big government North that attacked the South with Christians killing Christians (all Whites) with over 600,000 killed and the rape of the South at war’s end; then there’s the spector of WW1 and WW2, which was really the same war with a 15 year breather, with so-called Christian nations at war with millions upon millions dead as a result along with the Japanese and many others thrown in for good measure. Then there is the history of European Christian imperial colonial conquest around the world. Where was God in all this carnage? Are there any winners? And if so who are the losers?
    Is everyone in the end a loser? If there are winners Is God on the side of the winners?
    Or Is God on the side of the “hidden hand” who for the last 2000 plus years has been behind the scenes manipulating the people via their beliefs in all this death and destruction? As Dave says there indeed may be a “simple” answer for all this. For my part I don’t see any “simple” answer.

  54. Marty February 13, 2014 at 4:09 pm

    One must only read the scriptures whereby Jesus, during one of his three ministries, told his disciples (who are the first of the only 144,000 ever going to heaven) that they must be NO PART OF THE WORLD, because he, Jesus, is no part of the world. This means NO PARTICIPATION IN POLITICS. PERIOD!!!!! Then one must realize that the listings of the works of the flesh, you know, the ones that preclude one from inheriting the kingdom of heaven, include participation in SECTS. Divisions of the original Christianity. The one Jesus taught the disciples to teach the rest of us. Therefore, ANY man made church is a sect. It is a division of the original christianity, because it’s belief system is in some small or large way different from what Christ taught. Therefore, anyone participating in in those false christianity religions, or any other religion that is not the original christianity, is subject to a judgement of second death. So by virtue of that, it doesn’t matter that clergy are involved in politics, they are doomed anyway, for being clergy, that don’t exist in the scriptures, and are part of a religion that is not the one Christ taught. The world empire of false religion, Babylon the Great, is the greatest deception by Satan. He has mislead the entire inhabited earth away from God and Christ. Most of these religions also engage in idol worship and pagan practices. Get out of her unless you want to share in her sins and eliminate any hope of eternal life on a paradise earth.

  55. Docs Boy February 13, 2014 at 5:05 pm

    My observation is that hypocrisy seems to rule the day. Their words ring hollow, with the emphasis on how much in offerings they can collect on any given Sunday. I don’t see sincere Christianity as was originally taught. I see a social club based on false doctrine or meaningless words. In many cases controlled by local militarized elements of law enforcement. sanctimonious hypocrites and whited sepulchers with hidden agendas and a desire to maintain their tax exempt states.

  56. chris February 13, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    It’s about time someone had the guts to call this one out. No church decision should EVER consider the IRS. If tax exemption is gone – so be it.

    So many “churches” have unwisely taken on debt and live in financial bondage. We were never called to build buildings we were called to reach the nations – person to person.

    Breaking with the IRS means living in faith. What a novel idea!

    Living boldly by faith is not only prescibed for all believers, it is the ultimate satisfaction this side of eternity.

    Let’s awaken the sleepers!

  57. Anna February 13, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    The devil has really duped the churches in America with his 501c3 compromise. The truth is that in the U.S. Constitution, the churches were ALREADY TAX EXEMPT. They did not need to sign the Devil’s agreement to receive “tax exemption.” Holler all you want to 501c3 Churchians, but you are attempting to serve two masters, and in reality and through the eyes of Jesus, you are only serving one (mammon). Do your research before you attack me and make yourselves look even more foolish. Satan has duped you and mocked you in so many ways not the least of which are getting you to celebate Christ Mass (Babylonian paganism and mockery to the Truth (Jesus) and getting you to sell out for “tax exemption”, in exchange for preaching the TRUTH (Jesus/John 14:6). Kenneth, if we are not to criticize evil “dignitaries” (btw dignitaries are ANGELS, not govt leaders) then why did King David pray to God to have their teeth broken in their mouths? And to have another take their office? King David was a man after God’s own heart. And you Catholics who continue to misinterpret Jesus’ words about Peter, being the “rock”, JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY ROCK (THE TRUTH) not Peter! Upon THIS ROCK (JESUS/THE TRUTH) will He build His church. And the Simon Peter the Babylonian Catholics worship (unknowingly) is the Simon who tried to sell God’s Word for profit and was rebuked by Paul and Barnabas. Catholicism is just another false religion. Jesus said His flock is a little flock. Luke 12:32

  58. Country Codger February 13, 2014 at 7:59 pm

    Dave,I really like your response(s). Most people just can’t get their head around the fact that if you go to the state to be created then the state is your creator. (Render unto Caesar…) Individuality of pastors or congregations does not negate the rule of law…period. If you have a 501 c(3) you are a creation of the government and must be subject to the government NOT ALMIGHTY GOD. Please study the law folks. It is the matter of life and death both physical and spiritual.

  59. Stephen R. Leach February 13, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    Very good column!
    I would challenge on one point about ‘real ‘christians’. I know the context of what you’re sayin….you really mean ‘true believers’ as opposed to the religion of christianity which has died.
    Recall this statement by the Lord, “The Gates of Hades will not prevail against My Church”. His Church is not prevailed against, Christianity…..is defeated and useless…which probably makes your point even clearer when taken in the context that christianity is nothing more than a creation of man (satan) and the Lord used it for His purposes, but His true church is only now emerging….and we’re not called christian. Interesting huh? 🙂

    God Bless!

  60. Arizona February 13, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    WE ARE ON THE EDGE NOW,so I don’t even know if it still applies anymore,BUT in case it does,I have not been told to stop yet,SO HERES THE MESSAGE,1.THE LORD says HE wants ALL his children to start calling each other,EVERY DAY,2.THE LORD wants ALL his children to start going over each others house,and become familiar with where each other live,3. THE LORD WANTS ALL HIS CHILDREN,to start having meetings at each others house,TO decuss HOW TO AVOID THE MARK OF THE BEAST,this ones important,NO ONE gets into heaven wearing lucifers wedding ring,and everyone will have to stick together on this,AND TOTALY refuse it,no chips,no tatoos,no shots,no vaccines,nothing,no cooperation in any way shape or form,IT MUST BE COMPLETELY REJECTED,by ALL……..THATS IT…and TO YOU WOMEN out there,I did it to save my children,WILL “NOT” be accepted,THE LORD will save them NOT YOU,you are to refuse everything,NO MATTER WHAT……..NO EXCUSES……………

  61. Peter February 13, 2014 at 10:46 pm

    America embrasses Homosexuality and Russia attacks it. Bravo Putin and Heil to the new Communist Czar Obama!

  62. Docs Boy February 13, 2014 at 11:49 pm

    I’ve witnessed churches employ predatory practices against weaker members of the congregation for the purpose of targeting their assets or property, utilizing their own parishioners or church elders to carry out well organized schemes and attacks to gain control of unwitting victims personal assets. With the church hierarchy at the same time denying any involvement. I have personally witnessed this type of shameless conspiratorial conduct and treachery. In addition to using corrupt elements of law enforcement for cover. For the people who love and enjoy their church fine but for cases like I’m describing I recommend home bible study or services.

  63. Denny George February 14, 2014 at 12:28 am

    A church does not need to be a 501-3c. It can be a 508. It is simple to write on your checks “redeem in lawful money of account 12 U.S.C. 411”. This takes the ‘adhesion’ contract off the federal reserve notes. The IRS has people’s status listed as an “infant/decedent” (IRM You need to NOTICE them that you are not and that you are the ‘beneficiary’ of the Trust/estate – not the ‘grantor’ and ‘trustee’. I have been trying to teach people this, but they would rather remain in bondage. I started learning ‘real law’ when I asked the Holy Spirit to lead me into His absolute truth. The more I learned about man’s law, the more (and deeper) it lead me into God’s law & His truth. Ask ANY attorney to see his actual “license to practice law”. None have one. There isn’t any. It is all a fraud. why do you think they are called ‘attorney AT law’? Because they are NOT IN law.

  64. Denny George February 14, 2014 at 12:30 am

    P.S. feel free to contact me Dave.

  65. Keith February 14, 2014 at 4:01 am

    If the Lord leads you to gather funds or wealth of any kind for some purpose, do so. Keep no written records of it.
    That money belongs to Jesus and Jesus does not tithe to the IRS. Nor does any human government have the right to tell Christ what He can say from one of His pulpits.

    The current system is the precursor of the Beast. You have no obligation to obey it. You need to be able to distinguish between moral and legal. Legal has become a tool of the immoral.
    Laws that run contrary to God’s law are illegitimate and, in this country, laws that run contrary to the U.S. Constitution (a simple reading thereof) are also illegitimate. This holds regardless of the sophistry of corrupt judges.

    Scripture says pray for your leaders. Your neighbors are your leaders because this is supposed to be a Constitutional Republic. All authority is derived from the populace. Presidents, Congressmen and Senators are our servants. Servants take orders and are punished when they fail to obey.

  66. Beth February 14, 2014 at 4:09 am

    Dave, why don’t you write an article on Lazy Thinkers and Lazy Doers? The church is a wonderful place to congregate and serve the Lord. To praise him, sing his glory. Members of the church need to use their discernrment. It is rather simple but not in the way you describe. Hitler would go to the churches and promise security, food, jobs, etc. We know how that turned out. So point well taken. However, the core issue is not the church. You’re suggesting treating the sympton. Individual responsibility is near non existent these days. If your pastor preaches wrong doings, lives high on the hog, does not follow his responsibilities then simply find one that does! There’s a huge movement within the “conservative” churches to challenge the IRS rules on political policy. It’s a topic that is interwoven in the fabric of the church teachings. Preachers are actually violating the IRS hoping it will end up in the Supreme Court.

  67. Harold Brown February 14, 2014 at 9:15 am

    Hebrews 10:25 , While multitudes of clergy have made common use of this text to stress the importance of “attending church” , they have blissfully ignored the rest of the passage . The passage says that mutual exhortation (not hearing a pulpit sermon) is the primary purpose of the church gathering . (Exhorting One Another) ! Read it for yourself .

    Harold Brown
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  68. TTS February 14, 2014 at 9:47 am

    Beth said: “…The church is a wonderful place to congregate and serve the Lord…However, the core issue is not the church. You’re suggesting treating the symptom. Individual responsibility is near non existent these days…”

    Your thinking, Beth, is not scriptural. First of all, the “church” is NOT a building, WE are the church. The church can congregate ANYWHERE. Our individualism is given up when we choose salvation from our sin nature and then enter into covenant with God; Christ is in charge, and we become part of the body of Christ. We are no longer an individual as the world defines it.

    The church is sick. There is not one single brick and mortar “church” in the USA that is not apostate. Not one. The sick church is NOT a symptom, it is the problem, period. Run as fast as you can from it.

  69. connie grimes February 14, 2014 at 9:54 am

    Without question the best article I have ever read. Maybe, just maybe people will listen and understand! Please remember it is the church bangers who will turn you in during the tribulation period. Christ himself said,”Mother will turn against daughter and father against son”. And make no mistake about it the ones that will be the worst turncoats during this period are the one cell animals that have willingly fallen prey to the satanic doctrine of a pre-trib rapture. Disassociate yourself from these people and never allow them into your bible study. If you do you will die regretting it. thx

  70. jon February 14, 2014 at 10:13 am

    most Americans are Christians in name only, for them it’s like this ( I’m not a Jew, or Muslim) so if someone asks me I’ll just say Christian! the church’s these days are all about money and here’s my business card. where I live , in the past 5 years industry, dept. stores, office buildings and car dealers have closed in record numbers. on the other hand in a 4 mile radius 8 new churches have been built. here in Florida the scam was , hay man who you tidying too? you know if you give 10% someone will make sure you get a big check in the mail, or I heard a guy woke up one morning to find a new motor home in his driveway, and these lesser tares believe it 100%! if you don’t walk in the way of Christ ,you aint Christian and I can say this ,there’s not many real Christians , but enough. it comes down to the wheat and the tares . the tares have the jobs, the money , the big homes and control of the power base. that’s the reason the demoncrats are trying to destroy everything Christians believe in, but real Christians can see their hustle coming a mile away ! were in a war right now, and if you don’t know it, your doing something wrong.

  71. Truthy1 February 14, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    Here are more reasons to leave your church:1) Sunday worship- http://rcg.org/books/tshtbl.html 2) Easter- http://rcg.org/books/crwnos.html 3) Christmas- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6YOtG0JMWE & http://www.squidoo.com/santa-clause-psychedelic-mushrooms-and-you 4) Rapture doctrine- http://www.preteristarchive.com/dEmEnTiA/davis-nord_dd_01.html Seek the truth and you will know your savior. I am Second, in His service

  72. Stump February 14, 2014 at 12:43 pm

    Back when I was a Christian, we used to say, “Do what Jesus would do.” I used to get beat up a lot ’cause I ‘turned the other cheek’. After a couple broken noses, black eyes and assorted other injuries, I adopted the ‘eye for an eye’ philosophy and never looked back. Of course, I had to abandon Christianity to be true to myself and God.
    Now, I worship in my own church and figure God’s OK with it. I only have two rules: I do what I say I’m going to do & I treat others as I like to be treated. It works really well for me.
    I don’t worry too much about the way things are either. I figure God knew, before humans were even invented, what the outcome of everything will be. After all, He’s omniscient isn’t He?
    So y’all, calm down and quite fussin’. Everything that has ever happened and everything that’s goin’ to happen is all part of the plan. And it can’t be a bad plan ’cause it’s His plan.
    Of course, if God isn’t up there pullin’ strings, and is really more of the eastern variety where He’s an unconscious, powerful force then I might have to change my game plan.
    But I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it.

  73. de February 14, 2014 at 12:56 pm

    You’re not getting it. It does not matter if your building is paid off. A 501(c)3 is a corporation. If that status is dissolved, the assets (your building, assests and land) must pass to another corporation or it be sold off. If you “lose” your 501 status YOU WILL HAVE NO BUILDING AND NO LAND, and no assets whatsoever, including chairs phones computers hymnals…. EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THE BANK ACCOUNT.

    You need to contact an expert to dissolve the 501 status without losing everything.

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  75. joanie February 14, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    All societal institutions comprise the matrix – gov, health, schools, religion, entertainment etc. The entities are animated by people, doing good and evil deeds. Do we need any of these “institutions” or could they serve a healthy purpose if loving, conscious, spiritual persons were employed? In other words would we still desire a controlling/taxing government that steals from peter to pay paul? Would good practices transform big medicine that is presently murder by medicine? Schools only teach for the matrix – the difference being “telling” students “what is”, equates intelligence verses knowledge is a “knowing” – would schools evolve? Do people really need TV or entertainment of the varied kind?

    Going back just a couple hundred years, working the farm, people were so very independent they didn’t need or desire the matrix. What does independence mean today? And please don’t confuse that with freedom because it has never existed. We have free will, limited choices at any given point in time, freedom is another big fat lie. Tis really tiring people speaking of a past free country as if it really existed.

    The ultimate crossroad we’re at today is understanding, as an individual, you may not be feeding the beast, but unfortunately your brothers and sisters are, and since no man is an island, the collective will go down together or rise together. So, besides the churches as psyops, and big medicine (we heal from within) so is gooberment, aka corporate U.S.

    If you’re working for government, you’re feeding the beast! On my average city block, more than 50% of the people are employed by the big G – teacher, public school support, gov grants pay for educating non citizens from various countries, community organizer, gov weapons plant security, postal carrier, and finally can I count non working persons paid to do nothing aka welfare etc…

    Which person dare judge another as the problem when s/he’s a 2×4 in his/her own eye?

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    Rom 16:5 Likewise greet the church that is in their house….

    1 Cor. 16:19 The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.

    Col. 4:15 Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house.

    Philemon 2 And to our beloved Apphia and Archippus our fellowsoldier, and to the church in thy house.

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  79. Ldh February 15, 2014 at 10:32 am

    You make many valid points that I would Agee with. My disagreements are as follows:
    1). You state the role of the church is to be the moral authority for society. That is a benefit. The church is the bride of Christ. It exists to glorify God, worship Him, to grow in holiness, and to make disciples of Jesus, teaching them to obey all He has commanded. The church’s role is not to make the world a better place to go to he’ll from.

    You are right there are many man centered churches. But there are congregations that are biblical. it is work to find them but, you must know and understand scripture to know if they are sound.

    I have a problem with people (not referring to you) that want all the benefits of a Christian society and there are many, but they want them for the benefits that accrue to them. It’s not God whom they love with all of their being but the gifts He gives. This is idolatry. They might believe but they aren’t necessarily in submission.

    This world is not ours. Jesus Christ is sovereign in all things to bring about His will. He has Satan on a leash (read Job). Nothing will happen that God does not cause or allow.

    You are right that we are to engage society, stand for what is right, speak against injustice but it is all done for the glory of God and not to have a better world to live in. This world is under a curse. It’s coming to an end. Don’t live for justice, live for Christ.

    Your work is good and important but be very careful about criticizing the bride of Christ. He won’t stand for it. He has said it will prevail against the gates of he’ll and it will.

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  81. Bladecutter 100 February 15, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    “When tyranny comes to America, it will be wrapped in the Flag and whistling Dixie”
    Secede and assume Your own God given Sovereignty. SAY NO and be willing to die fighting this oppression. Turn Your backs to bs, guided entertainment media…quit buying the crap they tell You You need…stop paying taxes…take their money away from them…make it hard on THEM… stupid is as stupid does…stop funding Your own destruction…….stop buying from the global chains…barter….create an alternate economy THEY can’t F’ with……..listen to Dwight Eisenhower’s farewell speech again…REALLY LISTEN, because obviously nobody listened when He gave it….tell this hierarchy to F’ themselves…..be prepared to deal with bullets fired at You by these pricks when You REALLY let it be known that You re not standing for this S’ any longer and You quit buying into their BS. Bladecutter

  82. Fsye February 15, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    Article says that “All of our social institutions have been corrupted and taken over by the forces of evil that we most often refer to as the New World Order“. .. I find this a perfect time to clarify a one of the greatest deception this solar system and related constellation has ever faced .. such a clarification, that when this truth is spread from state to stat, country to country and star to star, just might empty pews of every church established on any branch of the old catholic faith .. Now although the new testament is written and understood in it’s basic metaphor term .. there is a darker side hidden to even that understanding …

    To make this short and to it’s harsh point .. after the known crucifixion of the Positive Light Christ … the body of Christ was indeed the same Christ body that was entombed, but the living consciousness of the satanic leader had possessed that body of the promised Christ .. and powers for ascension was reversed in polarities, as the electron-negative light ruled in the stars .. this is how Satan deceived the whole world .. and why those that knew this truth have been hunted down and killed every since the killing of the 12 apostles ..

    This is why the very powers and principalities of this world caters to evil and negative energy, for rulers of this world has been a liar and a deceiver …

    And it has been the satanic elite which has been the evil force behind each OLD world order over into each that followed … UNTIL this generation …we are of that generation to see not only the return of Mohamed, and Jesus of Nazareth .. but the generation to see the New Righteous and Good World Order put in place for the overall good of mainstream and the celestial world behind the veil …

  83. Ed February 15, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    Abandon the “State” while your at it.

  84. Bladecutter 100 February 15, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    The roman cathoholics have spilled more blood than anyone in history,,,,the vatican is corporatocracy……war is the biggest con of all cons.
    I may have been spoon fed, but i sure as hell am not force fed.

  85. J. Millett February 15, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    It’s “beholden” not “beholding” and my apologies for the correction. I find myself superficially distracted by those things. Just like when people say “I COULD care less” when it’s actually “I COULDN’T care less” because if you COULD care less, that means you CARE SOMEWHAT. And when did “all of a sudden” change to “all the sudden”??? I missed the grammar superhighway bus stop I guess.

    Anyway, it’s the “Church” Satan seeks to divide and conquer, thus succeeding in the destruction of humanity through dismantling traditions, teachings, and dogmas set forth by Jesus at the Last Supper, and beyond. Humanity is created in God’s image. The Church created by Jesus at the Last Supper is the ultimate target and of course, there must be a GOOD REASON for that, huh? We are all fallible and many of us succumb to those demonic temptations…devoted and holy clergy are the most sought after in those dark and sulfuric places. Their souls are truly prized because they represent the Savior on earth. They’re NOT the savior, and we don’t view them as such, but they are allowed that jurisdiction on earth which grants forgiveness and absolution as long as the desire is true and the effort is consistent on the part of the penitent.

    “Organized Religion” isn’t the problem…the problem is sin and the fallen nature of humanity. The problem is the lack of faith and love for Christ and the salvation He offers so willingly.

    TRUE FAITH and the organization of it must fall in order for Satan’s ill-fated kingdom to prosper, at least in the short time he’s allotted. Don’t steer Christians from the True Faith…this is one of the great deceptions of the end times. The Catholic (Universal) Church is the safe haven…and we must look beyond those misgivings to what the Church really is…not what it purports to represent by those with tragically human natures, as it does in ALL religions. DOUBT is the great friend of the great deciever. Seek the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit and you will be guided. Seek the one triune God and you will not be misled.

  86. Mitch Graves February 16, 2014 at 5:19 am

    What is far, FAR more important is that the church (the REAL Christians) embrace and accept ALL of GOD’s word.
    We each must choose to believe and obey the words and examples given to us.
    The #1 act of ministry done by Christ is almost completely ignored by almost 100% of real Christians!?!?!
    It was so important CHRIST did this miracle more than EVERY other type of miracle HE did put together.
    When he sent out the 1st group ever to minster HE told them to do ONLY that miracle!
    And yet the church is ignorant as hell wants them to be on it.
    I have not ever seen a single church who even attempts to actually disciple anyone.
    Real discipleship is invasive and the life is laid open and the heart is dealt with by GOD through this ministry.
    The church is full of selfishness and rebellion because we have allowed it.
    Most churches don’t tell ppl the truth for fear of losing them.
    The days of Ananias and Sapphira are coming again and ONLY those who are led by the SPIRIT of GOD will be used of HIM.
    If you want to be part of what GOD is about to do you’d better learn about HIS #1 miracle
    and HIS #1 directive concerning the church…and in that order>
    If you want to be part it’s time to learn:
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  87. wally58 February 16, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    You go to today’s churches to learn how to practice “Churchianity,” not Christianity. Today’s churches will be later known as the “Synagogues of Satan,” which is right out of the Bible verses. They DO NOT tell their flocks WHOM the Edomites are in TODAY’s world. They PURPOSELY mislead their flocks so they can get the Gov’t blessings on their 501C3 charters. If they DO tell the TRUTH about the Edomites and the meaning of John 8:42-47, they would LOSE their tax exempt status, which is apparently more important than teaching the word of Yahweh. Wouldn’t wanna be in their shoes when Christ Yahshua returns.

  88. Durablefaith February 16, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    Good article.

    For those who feel that Dave is painting with too black and too broad a brush, I would remind you that the very word “church” is a state funded mistranslation of Ekklesia which simply means assembly.


    Early believers were referred to as followers of the way. The labels we are accustomed to are not rooted in scripture or in the experience of the early believers. These labels have brought us back under man, when Christ came to set us free, to disintermediate us, from the control of other men.

    As long as we allow others with credentials (badges, degrees, or holy titles) to usurp the role of teacher, counselor, Lord, we will continue to be led astray. They will crush our pearls and then turn and rend us as has been occurring throughout history.

    Don’t be afraid. God can speak to you. He can show up at your assembly of believers in living rooms or barns. And He can lead us into ALL Truth, even those sticky areas of conscience where 501c3’s are not permitted to go…

    No KING but Jesus!

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