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The Reason Why There Will Be a Second American Civil War

Dave Hodges

May 1, 2014

The Common Sense Show

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Anyone knows, who has half of an eye open, that American citizens are soon to become an endangered species under our present lunatic President.

 

Everyone should know that all of our constitutional protections against an out-of-control globalist puppet regime are melting away right before our very eyes.

Everyone knows that Obama, under the NDAA, has the legal authority to “disappear” all political opponents without so much as a trace.

Everyone knows that American economy was driven over the fiscal cliff in 2008 when Congress permitted the bankers to plunder our tax revenues and, today, we are just waiting for the official eulogy that the American economy is dead and the real “hunger games” are about to commence.

Everyone knows that when the Obama puppet masters in the Federal Reserve are done plundering what is left of our pensions, our social security, our private property and our 401k’s, that the economy will be collapsed once and for all. And then, what will the American people do? They will do what any generation of Americans would do, they will take to the streets in an attempt to rid themselves of the corrupt banker controlled government which has ruined this country. Sadly, this last ditch desperate attempt at regaining our lost liberties will not have a happy ending.

Picture, if you will, the veterans groups marching on Washington DC. Imagine bus loads of citizens following the veterans groups which will demand an end to a tyrannical government. Obama will make a formal declaration of martial law. Americans, desperate for food, water and the means to make a living will seek open confrontations with the present administration and this will commence the darkest days in American, and perhaps, even world history. As an aside, this is why Operation American Spring is a bad idea.

Will American Troops Carry Out Genocidal Orders?

Will American troops follow the genocidal orders surely to be delivered by Obama? Will they begin to secretly arrest perceived dissidents? Will the military follow orders to shoot to kill American citizens who will be desperately looking for their next meal? With FEMA’s performance following Hurricanes Katrina and Sandy, will there even be a next meal? Don’t hold your breath.

When the irresistible force meets the immovable object, what will happen? Will American troops fire, when ordered, upon their American brothers and sisters? There are two possible answers to this question. First, it is a known fact that the military is programmed in boot camp to follow orders like a bunch of Pavlovian conditioned dogs who are well trained in the art of unquestionably carrying out the orders of their superiors without hesitation. From a military training perspective, there can be little doubt that American soldiers will not only fire upon American protesters, but most will do so without the slightest amount of hesitation or conscience. However, the field of psychology provides an even more accurate view of why we can expect the American military to do in the coming desperate times.

Not only will our military fire upon us, their fellow citizens, but they will also willingly participate in the round up of dissidents, and the extermination of these dissidents in what has become known FEMA Camps, which will surely accompany the coming martial law. NORTHCOM has been training for this since the 1990’s.

Before I address the psychological reasons on why the coming American genocide is almost upon us and it will receive the enthusiastic support from active duty military personnel, let’s examine the fiction set forth by a group known as Oath Keepers.

Some our citizens are deluded into a false sense of security by the group known as Oath Keepers. It is a well-intentioned effort to remind both law enforcement and the military to uphold the Constitution and to disobey unlawful orders which would bring harm to American citizens. Under the this false sense of security, many in the American public really believe that American troops will not fire upon American citizens. Unfortunately, the field of psychology demonstrates why only a minority of soldiers will actually resist committing atrocities against the American people.

Group Think

The world of psychological research provides the definitive answer to whether we should fear our military in the coming storm ahead in the form of a phenomenon called group think. Group think is often described as a decision-making process whereby the group members go along with what they believe is the consensus. Group think has also been used to describe individual acquiescence to authority even when the authority has limited power to enforce compliance. Group think often causes groups to make hasty, irrational decisions, where individual doubts are set aside, for fear of upsetting the group’s leadership and balance.

Just how far will people go to please authority figures and subsequently do what they know to be immoral? The first known laboratory test for groupthink occurred in 1963 by Yale professor, Stanley Milgram. Subjects for this landmark study were recruited for the Yale study through newspaper ads and direct mail. The participants were men between the ages of 20 and 50, from all educational backgrounds, ranging from an elementary school dropout to participants with doctoral degrees.

Milgram wanted to determine what percentage of people would willingly administer enough progressive electric shocks which would result in death simply based on the orders of a perceived authority figure (i.e., the experimenter).

There were three participants in the experiment:

1. The Teacher was the real subject in the experiment. Their role was to administer shocks for each wrong answer provided by the learner. How far would they go, was the true subject of the experiment.  Would they actually kill a person for failing to provide the correct answer on a word pair test? Would they mindlessly follow the orders of the experimenter to continue with the abuse, regardless of the results and obvious harm being perpetrated upon the pretend victim in the experiment?

2. The second participant, the Learner, was actually a plant in the experiment. The Learner would sit in an adjacent room and pretend to be shocked for each wrong answer that they would purposely give. Eventually, they would cry out for help and beg the Teacher to stop administering the electric shocks. Their cries included pleas of mercy that were often based on an unknown level of self-expressed cardiac distress that they were pretending to experience.

3. The Experimenter was a stern looking fellow who carried a clipboard, wore a lab coat, and would urge the Teacher to continue regardless of the make believe pleas of the Learner.

The “Teachers” were told by the experimenter that they would be participating in an experiment to test the effects of punishment on learning. However, as has already been stated, this was not the goal of the experiment.

The “Teacher” was given a list of word pairs which was used to teach the Learner. The Learner was actually a confederate, or a plant, in the experiment. The Teacher would then read the first word of each pair and read four possible answers. The Learner would deliberately press the wrong button to indicate his response. Since the answer was incorrect, the Learner would receive an electric shock, with the voltage progressively increasing with each wrong answer. Therefore, the
subjects believed that for each wrong answer, the Learner was receiving an ever increasing level of actual shocks which would eventually result in death.

In reality, there were no shocks. After the confederate (i.e., Learner) was separated from the subject, the confederate set up a tape recorder integrated with the electro-shock generator, which played pre-recorded sounds of pain and distress for each successive level of shock. After a number of voltage level increases, the Learner would bang on the wall which divided him from the subject (teacher). After several instances of banging on the wall and complaining about his heart condition, the learner provided no further responses to questions and no further complaints. The fate of the Learner was left to the imagination of the teacher. The silence was met with the command to continue with the experiment. Although the Learner was not being harmed, the Teacher believed that they were administering progressively dangerous shocks. From the instrumentation panel, the Teacher could clearly see that their shocks were approaching the level of lethality. Was the Teacher being forced to capitulate and continue with the experiment? Quite the contrary was true, the prompts to continue administering shock were encouraged by minimal prompts and absolutely no threats were offered by the Experimenter.

If at any time the subject hesitated or expressed a desire to discontinue the experiment, the subject was given a planned and verbatim succession of verbal prompts by the experimenter:

1. “Please continue.”

2. “The experiment requires that you continue.”

3. “It is absolutely essential that you continue. ”

4. “You have no other choice, you must go on.”

If the Teacher still wished to stop after having listened to four successive verbal prompts, the experiment was discontinued. Otherwise, the experiment was terminated after the subject had administered the lethal 450-volt shock three times in succession.

Milgram expected that less than one percent would actually administer a fatal electric shock. The actual results were so stunning that he decided to film the results on the final day, fearing that nobody would believe his results. And what were the results? Despite expressing some measure of discomfort and the minimal use pressure, in Milgram’s first set of experiments, 65% (26 out of 40) of the subjects administered the experiment’s final and hypothetically fatal 450-volt shock. Amazingly, no participant steadfastly refused to give further shocks before the 300-volt level!

Milgram’s results were confirmed when Dr. Thomas Blass performed a meta-analysis on the results of repeated performances of the experiment. Blass found that the percentage of participants who were willing to administer fatal voltages remains remarkably constant, between 61% and 66%.

The results of Milgram’s and Blass’ work are stunning in their final conclusion which demonstrated that almost two-thirds of all Americans will mindlessly follow the commands of a “perceived” authority figure even when the authority figure has no real power over the people. Is this why our military continues to serve a despot who does not hesitate to throw away their lives or anyone else under his charge such as Ambassador Stevens?

To achieve political success, every authoritarian regime requires a high level of voluntary cooperation (i.e., group think) from its citizenry. Cooperation can be coerced as many times, in dictatorial regimes, cooperation is obtained as a result of extreme intimidation by carrying out a relatively small number of exceptionally harsh punishments in order to serve as a warning to the masses. However, there are not enough police, inspectors, auditors, etc. to control a populace in which the majority would fail to comply with the status quo. Then why do we continue to follow leaders who have abandoned the Constitution and the welfare of our people long ago? Is America a prisoner to the group think phenomena? What about gross ignorance as a contributor to America’s capitulation to such bad leadership? Can anything be done?  Now that we have had the confirmation of FEMA Camps, are you concerned about the propensity for the American people to follow directions right to the planned extermination of Americans as planned by the globalists?

fema camp prisoners

Conclusion

I wholeheartedly support and applaud the efforts of the Oath Keepers and for some military personnel, Oath Keepers will make some difference, and thank God, because they are one of our last lines of defense. However, when one considers the conditioned response training of the military and the propensity for even nonmilitary personnel to blindly follow orders, through the process of group think, I think Oath Keepers may only be able to exert a minimal effect on the overall outcome as it pertains to the American troops committing genocide against the American people. In addition to the brainwashing of boot camp, our soldiers are getting years of indoctrination with regard to the killing of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan. They are getting years of practice, through multiple tours of duty, on how to confiscate guns and how to conduct civilian roundups. When the troops begin to be withdrawn from Afghanistan, the American people should become very worried.

The number of troops which will not obey the heinous order can fixed at between 35-40% based upon the work of Blass and Milgram. If you are a member of the military and reading these words, you may no doubt become angry that about two-thirds of the military will not stand down. Although it is true that you may not obey an unlawful order to fire upon American citizens, the soldier on your left and the one are your right will obey that order.

There is an unspoken message, heretofore, in this post. No military can operate with a dissension rate of 35-40%. This kind of widespread dissension can only spell one outcome, civil war!

 

 

 

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  1. Michael Cox May 1, 2014 at 6:58 am

    I am a member of Oath Keepers and a Veteran, I have been reading your blog for a couple of years now and this is one post that I find flawed. First basic training does not strip a person of morals and there own sense of identity. Second having gone through basic training in 1991 and given the fact that my wife is still active duty I can tell you the pussification of our troops has been going on for some time. When I went through basic they could no longer hit you but they could make your life hell in many other ways. Today basic trainees have safe words and time outs if the drill instructors are getting to tough on them. Also using the experiment above leaves out a very real and crucial difference, the subjects above were alone in the experiment in reality the 35 to 40 percent will be able to have a direct affect on the rest because they will be side by side not acting alone.

  2. Dan May 1, 2014 at 7:00 am

    From what I just read there will be no civil war. It will be a bloody mascara from the military on the American people.

  3. Incriminally Sane May 1, 2014 at 7:05 am

    It should also be noted that there is a very large number of non Americans inside today’s military who would not hesitate to fire upon the people here and will follow the illegal and immoral orders of their foreign controlled leaders but I am hoping that the ones that refuse will have a huge impact on the ones tempted to fire on innocent Americans.

  4. Marv May 1, 2014 at 7:15 am

    There wasn’t a “first” civil war. The Sovereign Southern states exercised their legal position to secede. Historical documentation is replete with this fact from even the northern perspective. No Confederate politician or general was tried afterwards as noted by the supreme court because of the very legal thing they had done. The only treasonous behavior and outright slaughter has at the hands on Lincoln, and brutally repressed the press in the north as well as encouraging state laws to inhibit migration of freed black men. There is nothing righteous about the government in DC post 1861 at all, it is an abomination.

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  7. Elizabeth May 1, 2014 at 7:30 am

    Outstanding analysis, Mr. Hodges. Outstanding. Bravo.

  8. Mike May 1, 2014 at 7:53 am

    agree that an outbreak of civil strife is inevitable in the US but before it becomes a full blown civil war our enemies abroad will take advantage of the situation to attack and invade the mainland, China taking West US and Russian East. before it’s all said and done, we will be fighting the Russians and Chinese rather than O and his goons but it won’t be much of a fight due to the treachery of O. watch for shift in global power — Ukraine going to Russia and Syria going to West. provocation in Ukraine is nothing more than a ploy to distract Russia while West grabs Syria. “peace” deal follows along new geopolitical lines followed by US civil unrest in heartland THEN attack while we’re focused inward.

  9. Peter McMillan May 1, 2014 at 8:04 am

    I respectfully disagree with the characterization of Oath Keeper’s efforts as “fiction.” Perhaps un-effective but certainly not a fiction. I served in the Army, National Guard and Army Reserve for 25 years. I know the difference between a lawful order and an unlawful order. I would never fire upon peaceful American citizens exercising their 1st Amendment Right. For their part Oath Keepers is reminding the military of its Constitutional responsibilities and I applaud them. I am not deluded by Oath Keepers. Nor do I feel a false sense of security because of their efforts. No more then I feel about your efforts. So, instead of deriding them you should be thanking them.

    The point is that anyone who fires on peaceful demonstrators is making a willful decision (re: Nuremburg). They may wear a uniform but I do not consider them “Military”.

    “If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” – Samuel Adams

  10. James Timms May 1, 2014 at 8:11 am

    GRACE & PEACE!

    AWESOME ARTICLE DAVE HODGES!

    I love to read about the Milgram test. That is an article included in Steve Quayle’s book, XENOGENESIS. When people begin to realize the degree of brainwashing that has been going on for decades and decades, they will do exactly what the research figures show. They don’t have the freedom of thought to escape the far reaching tentacles of the LAWLESS ONE. The one variable here is THE HOLY SPIRIT. When you and I pray for the evil around us to be bound, it will be bound! Here as well as in Heaven! When we pray for the peoples eyes to be opened, as Elijah prayed fro his servant to see the firey horses and fiery chariots round the city of Dothan, they will be opened! The unimaginable thing is, “THEY WILL NOT BELIEVE NOR RECEIVE!” I’ll enclose an article of mind freedom from Paul MacGuire/Thinking Outside The Box. Paul’s work is inspiring! So is Yours!
    Sadly we will be subjugated and fail because we forget to PRAY! If they will pray, they will be heard! But! They will not! 2Chronicles 7:14 Says it all!
    http://www.newswithviews.com/McGuire/paul210.htm
    WATCH THE VIDEO!

    Be blessed! Walk in god’s Grace! It makes for some AWESOME travel!
    westtexaswatchman
    PSALM 91/LUKE21:36

  11. WarriorClass III May 1, 2014 at 8:12 am

    It almost started at the Bundy Ranch in Nevada. It still may well start there.

  12. Syrin May 1, 2014 at 8:13 am

    Two thoughts:

    1) This is a divergence from your position about 6 months ago where you thought the US military was on our side and fighting for us behind the scenes. Why the change?

    2) I don;t think the numbers from the study will translate to the military. The study took people who are different from those in the military. There is selection bias when looking at military members. Plus, whoever kills American citizens will return to their home to find their entire family slaughtered. There has never been a society as prepared to resist incoming tyranny like the US. Armed to the teeth and pre-warned like never before. Half the country is awake and ready. The other half will die within a week’s time when their EBT cards stop working

  13. Jeff M. May 1, 2014 at 8:45 am

    The whole equation of military cooperation with orders to fire on citizens or participate in a “round up” of “dissidents” will change radically once the members of the various military organizations are no longer being paid on a regular basis, or at all, because of the coming collapse of the financial system in the USA. Once those military members can no longer support their families because of lack of payment the number willing to cooperate with unlawful or immoral orders will change drastically. Instead of the ratio of 35/65 (unwilling/willing to fire on citizens) the numbers will likely go to the opposite extreme of 85/15. What happened at the fall of the Roman empire because of this vary reason is a history lesson that should not be forgotten. History, and time, is not linear but cyclical and those that fail to learn from the past are compelled to repeat its errors.

  14. Lori May 1, 2014 at 9:07 am

    This is a link to print on the article for the hitler youth movement. I was unable to post there…so here is a print link to google docs, Print away and distribute widely.
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OODIObMckLLH_kJVkzu_zu6hYV0GCefdZjQ-NmjAgzc/edit?usp=sharing

    here is a link for this article too.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1faJiVwzMWQXGRiz3ElblcboWRNUXmMgRsxMYnLl0A18/edit?usp=sharing

  15. yardfarmer May 1, 2014 at 9:09 am

    with your given support of Oath Keepers, what is your opinion of them standing down at the Bundy Ranch in face of the expected hot drone strike the imminent nature of which Stewart Rhodes convinced them was inevitable, and deserting the ranch en masse? apparently, the remaining crew there unanimously voted to ban them from the ranch and called out Rhodes and Richard Mack as provocatuers.

  16. Dave May 1, 2014 at 9:18 am

    The 35% to 40% of the good guys will have the moral high ground and the support of the people.They will also be reminded that their families and friends will suffer the same fate that the bad ones use on American in different areas and when their families call for help, it will be a game changer.

    Like in Red Dawn, The tiniest flee can drive a dog nuts.

  17. THusar May 1, 2014 at 9:25 am

    You are correct in that the military teaches discipline. Discipline being defined as the instant and willing obedience to orders.

    What you are leading folks astray with are the Oaths that are sworn by enlisted and commissioned officers.

    Enlisted swear an oath to, among other things, obey the orders of the officers above them. Officers swear an oath to support and defend the Constitution.

    This sort of drivel filled with attempted moral equivalencies does nothing but add fuel to the fire that is already growing. Are there bad apples, sure.

    You are obviously not familiar enough with the military to speak with an informed voice. I find it hard to believe that PFC Smith from Nebraska is going to be very willing to kick in the door of Sally Jenkins in NH. This doesn’t even speak of the officers who would have had to receive and give the orders all the way up and down the chain.

    Is there reason for concern about O-5’s and above. I’ll give you that, as it’s warranted. Many of these folks are more politician than anything else.

    Getting folks riled up and anti-military based on a tenuous link to an experiment from a time that was substantially different culturally serves no purpose other than to allow you to hear the sound of your own voice and feed your ego.

  18. kevin indreland May 1, 2014 at 9:27 am

    Dear Mr. Hodges,

    I served in the Marine Corps for 4 yrs and did 1 tour in Afghanistan from 1998 to 2002. Although, I am proud of my service and my brothers, I am deeply dismayed to say that I agree with you on your conclusions. These are bitter-hard facts to swallow, but certainly the truth. It has been over 12 years since I laced up my boots and slung my rifle over my shoulder, but the indoctrination/brain-washing that I underwent is gone thanks to a reality check from gentleman like yourself.
    It is a hard reality to realize that some of my former brothers-in-arms could very well be staring down the barrel of a rifle one day and not blink, nor hesitate to fire upon us. All because an authority figure has classified us as “domestic terrorists”.
    Thank you for being a watchman on the wall and please keep heralding the warning as long as you can sir!
    May God bless & keep you and your family!

    Sincerely,

    -Kevin Indreland

  19. USPatriot May 1, 2014 at 9:39 am

    I Complete agree with your comments. Being a oath keepers myself. I am around a lot of guys who really love this country, but let me share with you my thoughts. First of all, most of the oath keepers I see are older Americans. Granted, I don’t live close to any U.S military base, thus those who are still active I have no head counts. Those older guys are in the late 40’s to 50’s. Most I would say are not in combat shape. Oath Keepers are at the stage to educate the sheeple and alert them. This mainly is not working, they are too far gone. Only when it hits the fan and they go hungry, lose their homes and get locked up will they awake. Then it will be mainly too late. Oath keepers are make some good ground, and they will awaken some, but now is the time to stage and train. Your life will depend on it.
    What will you do when the come for you? Are you a patriot or weakening?

  20. Craig Mouldey May 1, 2014 at 9:40 am

    Many of your articles have me pacing the deck and talking to myself Dave. This one is no different. Soldiers and all others involved in ‘public service’ swear to uphold and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. They are duty bound to disobey any order which contradicts that oath. Yet they are caught in a huge dichotomy to obey every order without question. I think anyone who swears such an oath should also be asked ‘have you actually read the constitution and bill of rights?’. ‘Do you have a basic understanding of it and support it?’ At this juncture it seems far too late for that. Would a firm shake make a difference. Do they not see that the politicians never do the fighting and bleeding but are all to eager to send them to do the dying? Because they are disposable! The politicians do not give a rats behind about them. If they understood this, might it make a difference?
    Clearly all levels of the government are seriously corrupted now. There is no fixing this beast.
    I have questions about the May march also. A large number of well meaning people will be sitting ducks. The government could easily set up an event leading to killing and apprehension of a large number of freedom loving people who dared to publically oppose the ‘politbureau’. I’ll be biting my nails and uttering a lot of short, silent prayers on that day.
    The Lord show grace to the repentent and judgement to the hordes of the evil ones.

  21. scooter May 1, 2014 at 9:58 am

    Dave, let’s see what the Bible says concerning your prognosis of civil war.For the many prophecy students who study scriptures, many like myself contend that Rev.18, Isa.13 & 47 and Jer.50 & 51 are prophetic to the end times Babel II/Babylon/UN in NYC heading the phony world unification efforts for Satan/Lucifer. So, let’s look there.
    Jer.51 gives us some insight. In here is the text telling us that CIVIL WAR IS PROPHESIED, but per Jer.51:49 it may time this after the mid-tribulation Dan.11:31 fall of Israel, blamed on end times Babylon, and per Jer.51:45 I believe the Lord is telling men to deliver their soul (per His rapture/resurrection promise) from the “fierce anger of the Lord” (a parallel to the WRATH of the Lamb /6th seal of Rev.6:16,17. But, because of the rumor references in one year and then another, it is difficult to pinpoint WHEN this civil strife is? Jer.51:46,47: “a rumor shall both come one year, and after that in another year shall come a rumor, AND VIOLENCE IN THE LAND, RULER AGAINST RULER. Therefore the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her WHOLE LAND shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her”. Then vs.48 adds, “the spoilers shall come unto her from the north, says the Lord”.
    So—-this is a chilling conformation. And short of a thorough BELIEVERS repentance and turning from our wicked and corrupted ways—-the land won’t be healed. But, we also see several issues to concentrate on. The Lord is bringing vengeance because we fail to protect Israel, and then the destruction comes from the north (Russia over the pole is most likely coming, thanks to the treasonous anti-missile disarmament scheduled for 2017). But then I’ve long said, a majority hired our own agent of judgment twice—and most don’t even know it yet!

  22. BRENT May 1, 2014 at 10:01 am

    And this was a 1963 Experiment! I can not imagine the same experiment done today! I’m sure this brings old memories for some of Kent ST. where some didn’t hesitate. To any thinking person this shouldn’t surprise anyone. We are so saturated and numbed by hollywood movies, video games, TV, and music pushing death, destruction and violence. It makes me sick! Other contributors to our moral decay are the dumbing down by our education system and the govt./media control propaganda driven bias against anything moral or right that stands against the govt./corporate industrial complex. I would say more like 80/20 scenario if i had to guess. GOD SAVE US in this morally bankrupt society! great artical. i listen and read often. also great artical on not trusting your pastor which i totally agree. years ago i had a pastor that would not support an action group on abortion for those same reasons. thx for your dedication.

  23. iwitness02 May 1, 2014 at 10:44 am

    In the world of double-cross and betrayal I wonder what new alliances will form when the sound of bullets can be heard in the air? This is one aspect that always seems surprising when they occur. Surprising in as much as no one seen it coming. What brought these groups/factions/people together when there seemed to be no connection? New alliances will form in the midst of big trouble. Big trouble seems totally unavoidable. This particular aspect I will watch with keen interest as old allies become enemies, and unknowns become allies. It is the unknowns that intrigue me. I am sure that in the moment that they appear, the new allies will make perfect sense. But for now remain unknown. I believe that this will occur at all levels of human life. From our own neighborhoods to the global community. The world wide shuffle.
    Or ‘reshuffle’ may be more accurate. These alliances will form under fire. Not before.

  24. Tony2Wolves May 1, 2014 at 11:09 am

    Dave, as a behavioral scientist, I could not agree more with your presentation of known facts. I also agree with your last paragraph. One only needs to look at American history to see only about 5% of the colonists were directly involved with the American Revolution. There was larger percentage that supported the 5% but were not directly engaged in the fight. Adding the two groups together the tally is somewhat lower then the 35-40% you sight in your article. History and behavioral science clearly support the conclusions expressed in your article. Considering your article, I am reminded of the saying from a Marine friend of mine; “Beans, bullets, and bandages”.

  25. BritAbroad May 1, 2014 at 11:26 am

    Yes Mr.Hodges.You have,as you Americans say,”nailed it”.I just wonder what the topscums plans are for us,in a near totally disarmed Europe.

  26. RICH99 May 1, 2014 at 11:31 am

    I’ll tell you what , even if this is right it won’t be any time soon …..even possibly not in my lifetime

  27. Chris Tobias May 1, 2014 at 11:52 am

    Any fool knows that an unconstitutional law has the same value as if it had never been written. ( Marbury v. Madison)
    Time to enforce the law. Each county has a Sheriff. Go tell the Sheriff to arrest the lawbreakers. They have no choice if the people tell the Sheriff of a crime and he or she does nothing, then arrest the Sheriff for being complicit in that crime…Then wait for it … get a new Sheriff. Time to fight the good fight.

  28. A Allenson May 1, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    Dear People ,Wow. I am a little scared.I can live with it. My point, I have been reading that a vast majority of our american troops have been being sent out of country,(usa) and many leaders in our upper eschalon of military have been let go or relieved of command based on certain beliefs. With this said, I have also read that our country has been , and particularly our military and home land security ,replaced with upwards of 460,000 Foriegn troops ,that if you divide that by our 52 states you get about 10,000 troops per state. that is an aweful lot of power if you include the hardware and firepower that comes with It may seem as if we have a fighting chance,but with the weaponry thev have ,we do not stand a chance in an all out civil war. This is what they want. We need to consider another ideal. Lets face it ,if they take our food and water we will be turning on each other. Very bad idea. We need to not feed there fire ,the one they are trying to ignite this very time period. We must some how be Unified in Love share our strenghts with each other throughout our comunities and hold fast as long as it takes to institute a new governing body. I know that is near impossible but the alternate action will cost us everything..God speed to one and all ….:)

  29. William B Stoecker May 1, 2014 at 1:40 pm

    I don’t recall the exact numbers of active military personnel, National Guard, and reservists, but let’s assume a total of perhaps six million at the most. If two thirds are willing to murder for the “Commander in Chief” most of them hate, that would be four million. Most USAF and especially most Navy personnel have very little weapons training, and there are not enough rifles, pistols, and machine guns for most of the four million. So let’s say three million military personnel and maybe two million more police, including state and federal. So, at the most, we will face five million enemy.
    Against that, we will have, at the very least, twenty or thirty million armed patriots who are healthy enough and desperate enough to squeeze off the rounds. So we have the bad guys (who are used to numerical and firepower superiority) outnumbered four to one at least. Of course, they have airpower, nuclear and chemical weapons, satellites, and drones. But such high-tech weapons have proven historically to be of limited effectiveness in guerilla warfare…else we would have won decisively in Vietnam and would already be out of Afghanistan. And this is without counting the military personnel and police who will bring their weapons as they desert to our side, or at least give us advance warning. Yes, things will get very, very bad and a great many of us will die, and soon.
    But there is a subtle difference between a realistic assessment of the situation and defeatism. I don’t mean to sound critical, Mr. Hodges, but sometimes you come dangerously close to crossing that fine line.

  30. NW Native May 1, 2014 at 1:57 pm

    Civil war has been in the cards for years. Tom Chittum came out with his “Civil War Two, The Coming Breakup of American” in 1996. Edgar J. Steele wrote “Defensive Racism published in 2004. (Edgar Steele was framed by the Feds and his waiting to die in the Victorville Federal lockup. Read his only interview recently smuggled out of Victorville:
    http://northwestfront.org/media/radio-free-northwest/ interview: http://downwithjugears.blogspot.com/)
    The corruption of the Federal Government knows no bounds.
    This must be drilled into our skulls. The US of America can’t be saved as a Constitutional Republic. However, part of it may be reclaimed for the survival of the White race in North America. One of the rules of military engagement, if you are confronted by a superior force, and there can be no doubt that the USSA has superior force to use on the American people, the rebels, American patriots must fall back into a smaller more defensible perimeter. Not to small and not to large. The Pacific NW fits an area that may be defended and not to small that the USSA can find and easily take out the rebels. Harold Covington in his 5 NW Novels, and they are that, fiction, has laid out a possible scenario in novel form on how all this could play out. When all is said and done, it makes little difference if the military, national guard, police personal or what have you does this or does that. The bottom line is who lines up with the rebels, and not the fake rebels that the USSA backs in Syria, Ukraine etc. but the true rebels who must battle the forces of evil in order to save their lives, their families and their race, to reclaim liberty and freedom from the depredations of the Talmudic, Cabalist NWO. If you can, move yourself, and if you have a family to the Pacific NW while it is still legal to do so.

  31. Arizona May 1, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    NOT just me,I’am a no body,but ALL the prophets have been shown whats coming,THE POLICE GANGS,THE US MILITARY,ALL THE AGENCIES of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,(70 of them)THE STATE,COUNTY,AND LOCAL POLICE GANGS,PLUS,ALL THE FOREIGN MILITARY,will be helping take down america,THE CHINESE and NORTH KOREANS,JAPANESE, will be extremely HARD on the citizens,When the time comes to RUN,you better have a good FOUR WHEEL DRIVE,it maybe what saves your life,and you better be keeping it full of fuel,WITH everything you might need for a while,Every indication is the bloodbath will last 5 months,BUT don’t hold me to that,NO one I know has been shown for sure…………………

  32. D*H*C May 1, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    The Oath Keepers have heart and devotion to this country. I applaud there efforts to keep this great nation free.
    If all fails and this comes to be then I will die with my head held high knowing that true patriots like the Oath Keepers and III%’ers fought the good fight.

  33. Paul J May 1, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    I just want to let you know that you should be aware that Homeland Security is ramping up its’ preparations for the roundup of dissidents. A series of unusual events in my life led me to discover that I am being surveilled around the clock and followed wherever I go. I believe I made the mistake of talking to the “wrong” person in a social situation and that person snitched on me for having dissident views. I am pretty sure HS is tailing me because they think I might lead them to others who are actively preparing for civil war. I wish they knew that I am nothing but a citizen journalist and have no intention of participating in any civil war. I have my own personal exit strategy for when SHTF. However, I believe that I will be targeted for interrogation at some point even though these evil people will not be able to find me guilty of any overt act of “the enemy”. Just thought you’d like to know what’s going on in the trenches. Be well.

  34. Diogenes Shrugged May 1, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    This one will later become known as the “Uncivil War.” The enemy likes to torture prisoners, cause enormous collateral damage, “double tap” social events like wedding parties, and violate Geneva conventions with reckless abandon. They’ll do those things here in America as easily as they do them overseas. The enemy is uniformly criminal, stands in egregious violation of the Law of the Land (the Constitution), and no longer represents American jurisprudence, much less traditional American decency. There was a time long ago when a citizen might ask, “When does Government policy become criminal behavior?” The answer was easy then, but is much easier now. Government is a criminal enterprise predicated on theft, so its behaviors are criminal by definition. Maybe a better question would have been, “When is government policy not criminal behavior.” Well, the way things stand today, I cannot think of a single example of government behavior that doesn’t involve some sort of criminality (and that’s true for all governments on all continents).

    Certainly a government is criminal when it does any of these things:

    1. Extorts taxes, especially when that amounts to half or more of what a person earns
    2. Speech and writing are regulated or banned
    3. Race plays a role in government policies
    4. Laws are written to infringe on the tools used in self-defense
    5. Theft of private property is justified with euphemisms like “civil asset forfeiture”
    6. Central banks provide the nation’s money – – at interest
    7. Borders are patrolled (not possible to have open borders AND a welfare state)
    8. Torture is deemed acceptable (when performed by government employees)
    9. The ingestion of mind-altering and medicinal substances is made punishable
    10. “Peace officers” are vindicated for extreme brutality and murder
    11. Whistleblowers and protesters are marginalized, fined, imprisoned, brutalized or executed.

    That’s a start, but I’m sure somebody could assemble a Master’s Thesis on the subject, a document with hundreds of similar red flags.

    Our freedom was predicated on the mandate that government would remain the servant of the people, and would exist for the sole purpose of defending each citizen’s life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Our government has instead become the servant of central banks, giant corporations, one-world government (New World Order), the military-industrial complex, the alphabet soup of government agencies (each behaving like an unelected corporation), and Israel (no other country enjoys anywhere near as much military and taxpayer subsidy).

    The coming battle will not only be horrifying, it will be excruciatingly long. Insanely long. Many, many years will pass before a final victory can be declared. Steel yourself and prepare your mind for hardship, horror and unbearable sorrow. If our children are to grow old in freedom, we are going to have to pay an incredibly heavy price beforehand. If you aren’t prepared for this, you might want to start preparing in earnest very soon. If you lack the resolve, you might want to apologize to your kids and grandkids now while you still have a chance.

    What I’ve said here isn’t hate speech. It’s love speech. They will hate it. They are the self-serving haters because they feel entitled to our wealth, our labor, our esteem and our futures.

    Your situation is going to get serious. May luck be perpetually on your side, and may you keep your wits about yourself when the chips are down.

  35. clete May 1, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    othkeepers are shills

  36. Mike Brickley May 1, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    From one soldier to another, somehow we have to communicate to them the fact that, “Once you get rid of us, they WILL come for YOU NEXT! DO NOT be a USELESS IDIOT!”

  37. DWright May 1, 2014 at 6:23 pm

    Dave:

    I agree, the American Spring event will likely fail and could result in massive genocidal showdown if it turns violent. The only way civil war might succeed is not by direct conflict between patriots and govt thugs who have will have a technological advantage.

    Assume that America has 50 million armed patriots and this population has many experienced vets. If this group formed 5-10 person hit teams we could have between one million and 500,000 teams to carryout clandistine assassinations of targeted domestic enemies: politicians, govt agenies like FEMA, DHS, IRS, EPA-Agenda 21, law enforcement agencies not supporting patriot rights, judges, chem trail pilots, bankers, global elites, etc. The same teams could randomly assult FEMA camps chem trail planes, DHS and FEMA assets (a molotove cocktail might take out an MRAP or a drone. ) Working independantly and nonconfrontationally, the national assault could wreak havic and terrorise the govt employees.

    The shear numbers of guerrilla teams would be difficult to defeat. The broke USSA would likely abandon the effort. All of the DUMBs could be destroyed and sealed off trapping the rats below. I can not see many other approaches working.

  38. katy May 1, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    Sobering indeed. More to contemplate… Thank you for this.

  39. Jim Eagle Feather May 1, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    I pointed out in about 2008 that the Globalist Powers That Be would seek a small US civil war in the coming years. The foundations for it are completed now. The yokel army they will fight against is now being prepositioned into in an old time range war, where cattlemen once murdered dirt farmers who acquired title to their lands legally, as happened in the last land rush in Oklahoma (My grand father faced off with those GODLY CATTLEMEN). So today the yokel army is being lured into attaching their cause to a rancher who can be easily portrayed as a racist (whether he is one or not – that makes no difference) and the yokelists are being lured into siding with the murdering-former KGB-Silovik man Putin. It makes no difference what Putin is or is not. The fact that the yokels side with him will be a perfect killing box for the yokels to be trapped inside of.

    I have a new plan for the Globalists. The USA should announce that it may invade Russia to save all the ‘English Speakers ‘ from the thugs of the old KGB. You see many Russians and even the FSB learn to speak English – which means they are OUR PEOPLE and hence Russia belongs to us. And since the yokel media has announced that Putin can do what he does because Bush did what he did (i.e. Two wrongs make a right) then the USA would be justified copying Putin).

    Why do I side with the Globalists? After 30 long years I grew VERY tired of trying to wake up the American yokel. I finally embraced the Dark Side, because that side at least WINS. Because they are not bovine cockroaches, but are instead centipedes. I respect centipedes more than cockroaches. The rebels have been called forth by the N.W.O. itself. Their WORST enemies are within their own ranks. And I can only wish them a ‘Hasta la vista, baby’.

  40. Sue May 1, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    Ultimately, the traitor’s know that they can’t depend on the U.S. military to kill U.S. citizens. They will have already seen to it that they will be invited into the interior of the U.S. in advance of any plans. That’s the ONLY way this could happen the way they want it.

    The problem for them is, of course, this is a judgement against the USA by God, so HE is in control. So yeah, not only invading armies should be scared but we should all be. Only those with their knees on the ground in prayer will survive. No one else will.

  41. Sue May 1, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    Ultimately, the traitor’s know that they can’t depend on the U.S. military to kill U.S. citizens. They will have already seen to it that they will be invited into the interior of the U.S. in advance of any plans. That’s the ONLY way this could happen the way they want it.

    The problem for them is, of course, this is a judgement against the USA by God, so HE is in control. So yeah, not only invading armies should be scared but we should all be. Only those with their knees on the ground in prayer will survive. No one else will!!

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  43. "Alice" May 2, 2014 at 1:51 am

    Here is an article all u.s. police should pay attention to.
    The people do not tolerate police brutality in China.
    http://revolution-news.com/china-violent-government-thugs-beaten-death-angry-crowds-killed-man-documenting-brutality/

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  45. len May 2, 2014 at 4:12 am

    There will not be a 2nd American Civil War. While the desire may be legitimate to put this monster called our federal government in its place we are beyond the point of making it happen. Our nations military is firmly in the hands of left of center officers and that started under Clinton and continued unchecked under Bush and Obama is just finishing it all off. The courts, big business, education and the media are all owned and operated by leftists and they are churning out mindless robots and it goes on. Conflict now is a little too late. I think moving to Australia, NZ, SA, back to Europe or even Russia makes more sense than trying to start a war. Take your kids and leave while you have the money to make it happen.

  46. Jim Eagle Feather May 2, 2014 at 6:00 am

    Dave your take on what the military personnel will do is spot on. They might not follow orders if we had an army of drafted men. But we have essentially a Merc army and today’s generation has filled the ranks with troops who have less scruples than an old Soviet Shock Army entering Berlin in 1945. Would today’s cops do things that would shock common people in the 1970s?

    In fact this generation with their demented dreams of what manhood means are just the ones to undertake a silly half-baked revolt. And as Jefferson stated once, every revolt that fails only makes tyranny stronger. It won’t be a revolution. It will be a short revolt. It will be tied in to engineered atrocities that will make the Oklahoma City event look like child’s play. The rebels will be tied in to some brain dead cause like a seemingly racist rancher who is fighting over land he doesn’t even have the deed to. Heck the authorities will probably dig up bodies of murdered children behind his house – something like that.. The troops will have no problem mustering up the venom required to shoot such rebels. It is not just the pre-training it will be the new wave of propaganda that will be unleashed.

    What idiot goes to war against an enemy whose uniforms he doesn’t know, whose formations he is not certain of, not knowing the true force of his enemy, where the enemy’s real capital truly is (Not in Israel), what tactics and strategy the enemy is wont to use, what weapons the enemy plans to deploy, or more importantly how many of his own fellow rebels actually work for the enemy? The Globalists are old hands at this stuff. Even now many of your number believe that Putin has them on the run. He does not. In all the present shenanigans that the Globalists are cooking up, I continue to place my bet on the N.W.O. and I say, “Let it ride Baby!”

  47. Heather May 2, 2014 at 6:10 am

    Dave,

    Your article is dead on. We’ve already seen this play out in Germany during the Holocaust. There’s a great article called “One Day in Jozefow.” In it, the Nazi’s used the civilian police force to clean out the ghettos. Approximately 500 men were sent in to clean out the remaining 1,500 people of the Jozefow ghetto. These men had to shoot women, children, babies, disabled, and the elderly. When they were given the opportunity to walk away and be assigned a different job, only 10-12 men took the opportunity. The main reason given by the men who carried out this heinous act was that they didn’t want to look weak in front of their peers. Interestingly enough, most of these men were not Nazis, in fact, in many cases, their families were anti-nazi, but that wasn’t enough to stop them from mass murder.

    People refuse to take a stand or get involved on almost any level today. We hear stories of them burning aborted babies to heat different places and there’s nothing but silence. Veterans are having their pensions cut, and are put on fake lists to die, and there’s nothing but silence. We have the most corrupt president and regime to ever have power, who have committed atrocious acts against the American people, and once again, there’s nothing but silence. If few things that I’ve listed alone aren’t enough, I don’t know what it will take to make people care and get involved… Which is why I believe we are doomed.

    When I was 18, I saw the play “Cabaret” and it was seared in me because I always felt that it described us (the US) “Life is a cabaret…” the party goes on, and, like the play, nothing will change until the gates swing closed and are chained, and people are imprisoned… but by then, it will be too late.

  48. American mom May 2, 2014 at 6:25 am

    Hi Dave. I must say, yesterday I kept getting 502 and 504 messages and could not access your site for several hours.

    Yes, this is going to be bigger than Civil War, this is likely the next revolution for America. Sadly, no matter which side prevails, the globalist agenda of depolulation will be carried out. Many lives will be lost at the behest of psychopaths.

    I do think if it goes down in a big way, when SHTF, many Sheeple will wake up and rise to fight quickly, if only out of self-preservation. Even if you’re unconscious, the fact there’s a nefarious evil in our air is undeniable and palpable. The Sheeple, even those beholden to benefits, despise “the man.” They’ll learn quickly the man is actually TPTB in various forms such as banksters, globalists, Communists, UN et al. And as you know, once parents are threatened en masse, it’s game on.

  49. Will Blueotter May 2, 2014 at 9:09 am

    Thomas W. Chittum was interviewed on Prophecykeepers Radio last evening. Tom is author of “Civil War Two: The Coming Breakup of America” which is acclaimed as required reading by Gun Rights activists from Rabbis to Skinheads… and everything in between.

    Tom is an author, military analyst and former mercenary from New Jersey. He served in the U.S. Army during the Vietnam War. He fought in the Rhodesian War and the Croatian War of Independence. Chittum predicts that the United States will soon face Balkanization and a second Civil War based on racial conflicts

  50. Linda Williams May 2, 2014 at 11:53 am

    The results of the Milgram experiment are certainly disappointing. One would wish that more people would have the decency and strength to not torture to death another person for essentially no reason whatever. However, Milgram should have told half of the subjects that as soon as they had finished doing the teacher role, they would be placed in the learner role and the learners would be informed that they had just been the teacher. I am certain that the results would have been radically different if this had been done. We cannot assume that the general population will act righteously. However, the minority who value the constitution and their right to live will not fit this general mould. We must be realistic, but we cannot afford to be defeatist. Also, the more that facts can be exposed, the more people will work for their own self-preservation. The “FEW” owe all their wealth and power to being able to turn people against each other. Once people understand that they are about to lose their homeland, their rights and before long their very lives, they will be less inclined to blindly obey authority figures.

    A huge number of innocent people have been and are being destroyed covertly. American patriots would do well to find these people and protect them, because they are the minority of intelligent, strong leaders of integrity. Paul J. alludes to being surveilled around the clock. A method that has been used for decades in a covert and evil manner, is reports under so-called “safety notifications.” This approach is the perfect form of murder by the state. The process allows any person to submit a report alleging that he or she finds someone to be “threatening.” The person will be secretly followed and flagged for decades everywhere he or she goes by hundreds and even thousands of strangers in their neighbourhood and in every neighbourhood in every country. There was a case of a woman in the U.K., Jane Clift, who was able to figure out what was happening to her.
    I only recently read of this on the internet and saw videos explaining it. The videos were then pulled off the internet. In effect, this method can be used to covertly slow-kill murder the most upright, law-abiding, peaceable citizens. As in the Bundy case, free persons can rally together to reverse such methods of enslavement. I would think that those who understand what is at stake would go on the offensive. Very minimally, we must make the public at large into the new media.

  51. Dusty May 2, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    Fear Not. Watch, Breathe, Pray and Float. The two pins on the driver’s side caliper of my truck were recently removed. Yesterday, my mechanic was amazed that I had made it to the shop without incident and freaking out.

    We know the truth and THEY are afraid. Their plan fails because there are still good people here that are strong in spirit, determined, awake and united in defense of freedom and justice. We are peaceful and will not make war, but we will not yield to tyranny.

    MOLON LABE.

  52. j May 2, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    Dear Sue,

    It is time you know that THERE IS NO GOD IN HEAVEN who is
    looking after you,or looking after America.

    You are it.

    I suggest you get real and get ready for the inevitable.
    J………….

  53. Philip May 2, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    Most of these websites are DISINFORMATION sites. There are lots of Russian “truck drivers” littered about the interstate. They have been here for at least 4 years. I say, they are waiting to attack the CIA’s underground base systems. After all. if you want to make an omlette, you have to break some eggs first….
    The Russians, Chinese, Israelis etc, are actually PARTNERS with the US, especially when it comes to the DISTRIBUTION of NARCOTICS.
    I would know…

  54. john May 2, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    I know your Right,. I’m a 60 year old male, a Tea Party friend , and political activist. for Republicans. A year ago. My pastor told me he recieved a call from DHS claiming I was on their list of “Angry extremeist ,very dangerous”.? The word went all over the church, no one wanted anyting to do with me, sadly I left the church..people thought the DHS was the FBI.The pastor left the church too. Now, I’ve never threatened anyone, I’m always friendly and kind, never been on durgs of any kind. I’ve worked in the factory all my life…. I went in to use the bank the other day an was greeted one foot inside the door by employees asking me if I was OK, I said yes ,fine thank you ..They looked at me like I was going to kill them, how sad., It looks like this administration is endevering to Demonize all political opposition,to possibly incarserate us all..or claim were all crazed psycos who have attac\ked someone and must be stopped . Lets ban together and seek an answer to this delema.

  55. yokel the local May 2, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    Oh but the reason for this slide into decay is easy: This government is only meant for a moral people and will not be sufficient should the people lose their morality. Founder’s paraphrase but found in the Bible as well, where God warns the people not to turn from Him or they will face the consequences in terms of various curses. Blessings can only return when a repentant people take to their knees and actually turn from sin. (This must start in the church). Realistically I’d give that a “fat chance” response. We are too far gone. Save your friends and family who will listen. Prepare your heart to meet God. Coming troubles are right around the corner I think. Many are not likely to survive.

  56. Michael Cox May 2, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    I find it very interesting that people that posted comments after me have been moderated but mine has not. I guess you are picking and choosing who gets to comment and because of that I will not only never visit your site again I will actively tell people about this!!!

    EDITOR’S NOTE: PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE

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