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Evidence Suggests Two Shooters and Antifa Complicity in Sutherland Massacre

Within a week, there wil be yet another photo at the top of an article on this webiste, depicting a scene in which dozens more are killed in another false flag attack. There are 3 soft targets that I have identified as likely to be hit and these are schools, malls and of course churches. Both Paul Preston and myself believe that schools are next. Any area in America which is declared a gun-free-zone is now a top tier target for psyops Antifa-related assassins and an organized terror attack similar to what we saw in Vegas.

The Common Sense Show would like to offer our prayers and heart-felt sympathies to the loved ones, in regard to the horrific attack upon Christians in Sutherland, Texas, on November 5, 2017. May the Lord bring comfort to the grieving loved ones.

Attention Democrats: Please Spare Us Your Ridiculous Cries for Gun Confiscation

Here is comes America, the gun confiscators are showing up in mass and will use any excuse to sieze your guns. Here are two related headlines following the Texas shooting:

 MSNBC’s Jansing on Texas: This ‘Puzzles’ Foreign Countries Like Japan with ‘Restrictive Gun Laws’

— Rep. Gonzales: Texas Shooting ‘the 4th of 5th This Year that Could Have Been’ Prevented via Gun Control

The fact of the matter is that it took a citizen with a gun to put an end to this massacre. The mass shooting in Sutherland Springs, Texas, was only stopped after an armed Texan “engaged the killer and put an end to the rampage, the Texas Rangers reported”.

From Grabien.com

Freeman Martin, a major in the Texas Rangers and a spokesman for the Texas Department of Public Safety, says the suspect dropped his rifle and fled after being confronted by a local man who had grabbed his rifle.

Freeman provided a timeline of the tragedy in a press briefing Sunday evening.

“At approximately 11:20 this morning a suspect was seen at a Valero gas station in Sutherland Springs, Texas,” Martin said. “He was dressed in all black. That suspect crossed the street to the church, exited his vehicle and began firing at the church.”

“That suspect then moved to the right side of the church and then continued to fire,” he continued. “That suspect entered the church and continued to fire. As he exited the church, a local resident grabbed his rifle and engaged that suspect. The suspect dropped his rifle, which was a Ruger AR assault-type rifle and fled from the church.” 

“Our local citizen pursued the suspect at that time,” Freeman went on. “A short time later as law enforcement responded that suspect right at the Wilson/Guadalupe County line crashed out and was found deceased in his vehicle. At this time we don’t know if it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound or if he was shot by the local resident. We know he’s deceased in the vehicle. “

The suspected killer is being reported as Devin Patrick Kelley. However, Freeman would reported, “The suspect has not been completely identified. We believe he’s a young white male, maybe in his early 20s. He was dressed in all black, tactical type gear and was wearing a ballistic vest.”

A local resident and neighbor of the good samaritan, Kevin Jordan, witnessed his as-yet unnamed neighbor put an end to the rampage, and possibly kill the shooter. Jordan is also a trained medical assistant and tended to the victims.” 

In Israel, teachers carry guns in schools and on to the playground.

Instead we are facing the following:

Sometimes a picture is worth a 1000 words. Ask the families of the one million genocidal victims how well gun control worked in Rwanda.

Kelly Was An Antifa Member


This was from Kelly’s Facebook page. It was mysteriously taken down within moments of the shooting. How could anyone have known to take this Facebook page that early into the event unless this person ws made known to Facebook ahead of time. This fact opens up a whole host of possibilities. I used to work with drug addicts trying to get probation from prison. Therefore, based my experience, I must state that this man in the picture is on drugs. Please note the “I am not there” look. I think it highly likely that both shooters, as evidenced by the comparative photos and surrounding circumstances, are Manchuraian Candidates (ie psyops assassins).

How Many Shooters Were There?

I am not letting go of the following report which surfaced within moments after the mass murder event in Texas and this was the account that I published on The Common Sense Show.

“The shooter’s name is being reported as Chris Ward. He has reportedly killed his entire family before launching the attack upon the church. I am not buying any more lone nut mass killers. We will find what we did with Paddock. Ward, or whomever,  will have been on psychotropic meds and is the perfect Manchurian Candidate.”


The above news report is convincing and is presented with conviction. And now, this has all disappeared. The authorities have their man. And of course, as always, it is a lone nut assassin with a paper trail that implicates him as the sole assassin. It is normally the case that the assassin does not survive and that is very convenient because dead men tell no tales. However, the above news report is highly suggestive of at least one other shooter and we don’t have to go the 4th floor to find muzzle flashes like we did in the Vegas massacre.

There is more potential evidence that is surfacing that suggests the presence of another shooter. First, we have a communication that demonstrates forethought of action which removes any typical “random act of violence” as a possible explanation.


Devin Kelley, who killed at least 27 people and injured many more, was one of two shooters in the church, according to eyewitnesses, who also report Kelley carried an Antifa flag and told the churchgoers “this is a communist revolution” before unloading on the congregation, reloading several times.  Please go to the following link to see a tweet about the fact that there was 2 shooters and that an Antifa flag was unveiled in the church. This is an unconformed report. However, it is important to note that this is the second account in which some measure of evidence is presented to indicate that this is a second shooter. My expert source tells me that a second shooter is often employed to ensure the primary assassin does not survive and plans are usually made to evacuate the “handler”.

Is this real? The way that we will know what was real, such as the case of the news report naming a “Chris Ward” as the shooter, is if the information begins to disappear. What is ignored by the MSM is what should be paid attention to.

As the reader will not in the following section of this report, I believe we are looking at an assassin that was part of a psyops.

Where Have We Seen the Clown Face Before?

Have you seen the clown face of the alleged assassin? If not, you should and then you should compare what you see to another mass murder that took place just over five years ago.

Paul Preston and I spoke late in the evening on November 5th. He directed me to the following Tweet and subsequent photo. Ask yourself a question America, where have we seen this before? While you are pondering the answer to this question, I will present this very telling Tweet. The answer to the question follows the Tweet.

Texas shooter part of the Insane Clown Posse. Carried Antifa flag into church before shooting and killing 26 Christians as they worshipped.

Here is the answer to the above quetion. His name is James “Joker” Holmes in what was left of his clown face. He was the infamous Dark Knight Batman shooter in Aurora, Colorado.  Compare the clown face of Holmes to Kelly. Please note the far away, “I am not here look”. The detached look is explained in detail in the following paragraphs as Holmes behavior was explained following his heinous act. Further, I am told that the clown look is part of the psyops approach to conditioning mass shooters into a state of automatic programming using classical conditioning (Pavlovian) techniqes. This is designed to elicit a conditioned response to a neutral stimulus designed to trigger the subject into carry our predetermined acts of violence.


On September 19, 2012, I published the following excerpts:

…PhD candidate, James Holmes, 24, residing in Aurora, Colorado,  acting with the precision and sophistication of a well-trained, killing-machine commando killed 12 people and wounded 59 as he opened fire at a Batman movie premiere The Dark Night Rising Yet, as many mainstream media outlets, including the BBC, are reporting that James Holmes had no criminal arrest record and had absolutely no military training in his known background, yet, Holmes had every detail of “what the police call tactical equipment. He wore a ballistic helmet, a flak jacket and gas mask, but also the gloves and breeches you would expect from a Swat team….”

…The media has hung its hat on two analyses and subsequent explanations for Holmes’ actions: (1) Holmes is a mentally ill mass murderer who was suffering from paranoid schizophrenic delusions; and, (2) this horrible tragedy could have been averted if only effective gun control measures were in place. First of all, there doesn’t seem to be any history of serious mental illness with regard to what the media is stating that Holmes most likely suffers from. Secondly, the paranoid schizophrenic argument loses steam because the killer abruptly stopped killing when he got outside the theatre where the perpetrator calmly sat down and peacefully surrendered to authorities as if to say “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!” Are these actions consistent with a crazed mass murderer? I do not believe so. If the murderers intent was to kill as many innocent people as possible, then it appears likely that this rage would have continued outside the movie theater. Adrenaline alone, would’ve accounted for several more minutes added on to the killing rampage unless, of course, someone literally or metaphorically flipped a switch, MK Ultra style, which caused Holmes to shut down and passively surrender. Thirdly, the delusional beliefs and subsequent behavior of paranoid schizophrenics does not follow a calm, rational, predictable and methodical pattern of behavior which is exactly what we see in Holmes’ homicidal actions on that fateful night. The manifested behaviors of paranoid schizophrenics are normally preceded by disorganized and delusional thinking which causes the person to appear and act in an illogical and irrational manner. This is the opposite behavioral pattern of what we saw from James Holmes who carried out his act with the precision of a well-trained professional killer.

It is my considered opinion that the same psyops techniques that were used on Holmes were also utlized on Kelly. Police have identified Antifa member Devin Patrick Kelley as the Sutherland Springs Church Killer


I agree with Paul Preston, schools better tighten their security protocols.

This is the beginning of the TET Terror Offensive I warned was coming as long as three years ago. There is no turning back, we are in a full-fledged war.  So long as George Soros is allowed to walk freely among us, we will see more acts of violence such as this.

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  1. Sparky Venturri November 6, 2017 at 5:22 am

    Shooter was dishonorably discharged. Access to firearms is a red hearing. This is a Mental Health issue. Shooter was arrested and charged with domestic violence against his spouse and child. Busted down to the lowest rank in the Air force to that of Airman. A truly BAD SEED. Nut jobs running amok in the US of A.

    All the more reason to protect and defend the 2nd Amendment and get a Conceal Carry Permit.Educate oneself on the laws of self defense, train often, develop situational awareness.and stop these evil bastards at every opportunity.

    Another possibility, was this a CIA Mind Control Operation? Was the shooter seeking out his Ex-In laws whom were known to attend this church?

  2. L4S November 6, 2017 at 5:47 am

    That guy looks like lizard spawn! Somebody get a DNA sample off the corpse. Reptilian hybrid?

  3. Mike November 6, 2017 at 6:29 am


  4. James Stamulis November 6, 2017 at 6:40 am

    We don’t need to ban guns we need to ban the left and their deep state traitors. When is Antifa, Islam, BLM, Black Panthers, Muslim Brotherhood going to be named terrorist groups and start arresting all who aid them?

  5. Liberate80 November 6, 2017 at 6:58 am

    Dont forget Jerad and Amanda Miller in Vegas 2014. Jerad also dressed as yhe Joker. And remember Anna Nichole Smith drugged in a video dressed as Joker.

  6. ronn November 6, 2017 at 7:27 am

    Dave….. I have worked and produced shows of one of Amerika’s preeminent hypnotists. With ten years experience producing his shows at colleges, high schools, etc. I can state with absolute certainty that this man was not only on psychotropic drugs but was hypnotized and medicated enuf to make him “Malable”. My friend the hypnotist was an understudy for years to Bob McGraph. I attended his lectures and hands on classes and garnered enuf learning to know how very powerful hypnosis is and how it could be used to do harm to others. I have seen people being hypnotized in three seconds flat and given a trigger callsign to revert back into a hypnotic state months and even years later. I saw how the hypnotic state can be introduced and last for up to 19 days without further intervention by the hypnotist. I saw my show partner hypnotize and entire audience in one fell swoop and saw rational, honorable people do some of the most outrageous acts while under hypnosis. Nueroplasicity is the key ingredient to getting people to do things they normally would never consider doing. Foe instance; We for the most part do not know that certain special operations soldiers are routinely hypnotized just before an insanely suicidal mission. That gives them the incentive to be super-soldiers have you and basically survive insurmountable odds against them. I, myself have studied and still practice “remote viewing and remote influencing”. The power of the mind combined with sychronicity and the collective unconscious is a force to be reckoned with. It seems there are too many of these happenings to just rule out randomness. If you can remember the Luby’s shooting in Texas so many years ago it harkens to a time a man went missing for approx. 3 weeks. 2) Had no history of this kind of madness, and 3) and than returned to bring on fire and brimstone for no apparent reason. This was a milestone moment for me where I started to question everything and decided to devote a certain amount of time in my life to do able and thorough research on a certain kind of madness permeating our post industrial age. To my astonishment I discovered right under my nose the answers to many of the questions I had. Being given the extraordinary privilege of producing my friends hypnosis shows I was able to accrue a vast amount of knowledge held back from the general population. I would behoove criminologists not to rule out suggestive mind control. I still produce his shows occasionally and conclude this very important fact is usually always left out in the reports I have seen over the years involving these ghastly deeds. I have produced hundreds of shows for my friend and and videotaped most of them. This powerful weapon of mind control is at the forefront of what is happening today. It is a well executed, well funded program by psychopaths in and out of our govt’s to ensure the desired reaction is obtained. Please take this warning seriously because I am one who speaks from over fifteen years working in this medium and knows its strengths as well as the weaknesses of the hypo-suggestive paradigm. May we all be more informed and stop looking in all the usual places. Enuf said, you know the roll call.

  7. Tzsarra November 6, 2017 at 7:30 am


    Here’s the facebook page for “Chris Ward” (interestingly he lives in Sutherland, TX)

  8. Spike November 6, 2017 at 8:32 am

    America has opened the doors to all types of hell that now invades. Men and Women in black robes kicked prayer out of the public schools, removed the Ten Commandments from the public eye, allowed the murder of babies in the womb and most recent sodomite marriage. When you kick God out, evil takes its place. American people are truly starting to reap what they have allowed our leaders to sew!

  9. tyuiu November 6, 2017 at 8:45 am

    Antifa was announced months ahead of time. Nothing likely to happen.
    Day after Antifa,,,, mass shooting. THEY DID NOT WARN US OF THIS !

  10. Fred Kapelski November 6, 2017 at 10:26 am

    The people who said there were 2 shooters need to be guarding their lives. The “official timeline” generally doesn’t abide dissenters very well. Will the truth be known? Not counting on it. Lies are the stock and trade of law enforcement for the most part.

  11. Curtis November 6, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    Go here: https://www.facebook.com/firstbaptistchurchsutherlandsprings/ then go to the various posts, then start going through the “LIKES” and find when the “LIKES” start becoming predominately MUSLIM.

    I think it is pretty odd, for example on 2/12/17 there are 1.7K likes and predominately Muslim. And on 9/10/17 the likes are predominately Muslim. And. on Oct 31, 2017 all the likes are predominately English/American. I haven’t gone through all the dated posts, but again, you have a small church in a small town, and this little church has all these Muslim likes. Many of these Muslim facebook pages, if you follow them from their likes, proclaim Allah and his prophet.

    I video taped while scrolling down many of these Muslim likes on a few posted dates.

  12. Falcon101 November 7, 2017 at 5:35 am

    Notice how the far left gun control nuts immediately focus on the desire for more gun control instead of focusing on the legal gun advocate who was able to stop this crime before more could get killed. This appears to be another event that was created and not random so the gun control criminals have more material to justify the complete removal of privately owned guns. In the comment from Ronn above, it is described how they have the ability to program the human mind to perform acts of violence and then turn it off like a switch and if you research the may events starting with the Columbine shooting, it appears that the majority of the perpetrators were under the care of psychiatric physicians which means they could all have easily been programmed to carry out these attacks and I believe he is not far from the truth on this matter and they will continue these programmed attacks unless we open our eyes to this possibility of psychological programming. These events will continue until we look at ALL possibilities.

  13. Mike November 7, 2017 at 6:03 am

    Guaranteed drugs. Can tell by the eyes. The FBI uses the same drugs on all of their shooters.

  14. Warren Roy November 7, 2017 at 9:00 am

    I believe we need to scream back at the liberals who want our guns banned! I personally believe we as decent citizens need MORE guns not less! We need to be able to use them and take down such devilish people.
    Another thing. We need more capital punishment. I believe we should daily have certain criminals such as murderers, rapists, child molesters, politicians who try to pass unconstitutional laws trying to ban guns, politicians who want hate crimes laws passed to keep people from saying things against homosexuals and Muslims, terrorists, etc put to death and in PUBLIC executions!
    We need outlaw not guns but liberals, homosexuals, and Muslims! And we as a Church need to repent of our sins and obey II Chron.7:14!
    Until then we will see crime go up not down!

  15. Larry Deavenport November 7, 2017 at 9:08 am

    Most of the mass shootings have happened in the “liberal”s fantasy paradise of “gun free zones”. These city cultured individuals live in the fantasy that the police will be able protect them against deranged people like Kelly in their attack.These people are so deluded with the ideal of concealed or open carry that they cringe when the see someone other than a policeman with a gun.Just last week in Athens Texas a mother shot and killed her two kids and would have killed the step father but the gun jammed. this was after the deputy had been called out and investigated a domestic disturbance two hours earlier, called in by the neighbors. Two weeks before that a mother was killed and her son wounded by a neighbor in Richardson TX, again after the police were called out and a complaint was issued by them. The neighbor a convicted criminal, had been released from prison and said he would kill them.He denied that to the police these accusations then, two hours later shot the mother her fiancee and the son.This is the delusion that people who live under in large cities. They do not realize that people who have a concealed to carry, or an open carry permit have to go through training and practice shooting before they can have a weapon.

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