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How Fast Can a Strip Mall Be Turned Into a FEMA Camp?

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In response to yesterday’s article which demonstrated how many malls are being constructed with guard towers, I received the following response i which I was quoted and then chastized:

“Following this report, Herb Lane followed up with some very disturbing information about this development. In Herb’s photos, they clearly show guard towers. Unfortunately, his photos could neither be “print screened” or converted to a JPEG, and as such, cannot be reproduced here” HOW CONVENIENT!

After reading today’s article, this gentleman will have absolutely no trouble understanding just how grave the situation is. Not only will this individual come to appreciate the danger that we are under with these developments and along with the concurrent roll out of Jade Helm, he will also learn how quickly a strip mall can be converted to a FEMA camp.

Guard Towers In Marana, AZ.

Yesterday, I put out a request for Southern Arizona residents to investigate the construction of a new, suspicious mall which was being constructed with guard towers like so many other shopping centers and strip malls in Canada, the UK and the U.S.

Brian Nelson was among several people who descended upon the mall to bring the members of “Sheeple Nation” the truth about what plans the globalists have in store for millions of Americans.

Hi Dave

I read your article today and was running errands when I remembered you were requesting photos of the mall. I only had my I phone and it is a few years old so didn’t get very good pictures and am not sure what format they are in. Hopefully you can use them but if not let me know and I will put a better camera in the car as I may have to go back into town tomorrow for feed. Thank you for your hard work and God bless you and yours.  Brian Nelson


This was enough to establish the fact that this “new mall”, located in Marana, Arizona and is owned by Simon Properties, who has an agreement with DHS, to turn their facilities into detention centers in times of national emergency, is being constructed with guard towers.

This was followed up with an email and a stunning picture sent to The Common Sense Show by John O’Hara from the Tucson area.

I was driving by the I-10 and Twin Peaks Rd this afternoon and snapped this pic for you because you said in your article that you needed a jpg.

John O’Hara

 The following email and picture was sent to me by Julie and the following is a picture of the same mall in Marana.
I was able to take a few pictures of the Marana Mall on Twin Peaks Rd. off of I-10.   It is still under construction and very difficult to take pictures being that there isn’t a good place to park so I did my best.  One of the pictures shows the railroad track running along side of the mall.  I always felt this mall to be a bit eerie.  Now I know why!

The following picture was sent to me by Robert Strong of Tucson and it is an aerial view of the shopping mall. Please note how prominent the guard towers are from the air.

I have contributions from 27 other Tucson/Marana residents that were sent to me since yesterday. I could go on and on, but I think the readers get the idea. One naysayer wrote to me yesterday and said this was just an isolated phenomena. Give the fact that I have published very similar photos in the past few days, and they were obviously missed/ignored, I will address this issue one more time.

Do You Think These Soon-to-be FEMA Camps Are Just An Isolated Phenomena?

The following was sent to me by a reader in Tampa.

Hi Dave,

I was shocked at how many towers there are with this new mall.  My husband said the towers are just popular right now…  Right!?  And for the wrong reason I told him.  At this point of construction, if I didn’t know it was going to be a mall I don’t think I would have guessed it from the looks of it.

The location is (conveniently) just off I-75 and approximately 25 minutes north of Tampa.  (Tampa is home to MacDill AFB which is where CENTCOM and SOCOM are located!) Keeping my eyes open in Central Florida for you.

For business reasons, this prominent business person asked to be only referred to as “Anonymous in Tampa”. Here is the revealing picture.


Are we to believe that all across this nation, that city and county code inspectors are requiring the construction of guard towers for new malls and retrofitted closed malls like I showed you a couple of days ago in Washington state along the Canadian border? Or, can you now wrap your mind around the C word. “C” as in conspiracy against the American people?
Most of you know the look you get when you honestly try and convince a member of the “Sheeple Nation” that America is on life support and that tens of millions are in grave danger because of Jade Helm and the proliferation of the conversion of everyday structures into FEMA camps.  Along these lines, I was recently speaking with a friend of mine from Tennessee and began to point out how bad things in this country have become. Inevitably, the discussion began to center around the subject of unwarranted detention centers called FEMA Camps. My friend rolled his eyes and repeated the national anthem of all sheep, “I didn’t know you were one of them conspiracy theorists.” He couldn’t hold back the laughter.


I was not deterred, because I was at home and I had my evidence and I thought the evidence was irrefutable. Most of you could write the following paragraphs.

I asked my friend if he knew that American citizens for any reason, or for no reason whatsoever could be detained under the NDAA and sent to a FEMA Camp? He said that the government would never use this law against American citizens. Unfortunately, the evidence suggest otherwise.

How Fast Could a Strip Mall Be Converted Into a FEMA Camp?

I showed my asleep friend a leaked document in which KBR was telling its subcontractors to be prepared within 72 hours of notification to provide essential services to FEMA camps such as the installation of barbwire, blockades, personnel, food, water and sanitation services. I published this notice three years ago and one of my readers, Richard Firth, forwarded an email he sent to the document’s listed KBR official, Bob Seifert, and asked him for an explanation which could  justify the fact that KBR document was informing subcontractors to get ready to man the camps. Surely, I thought this would convince my friend. Below is the email exchange between Wirth and Siefert.

From: Richard w. Firth

[mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 8:39 AM
To: Bob Siefert
Subject: Level with Public about FEMA camps

Dear Mr. Siefert:

I am given to understand that KBR, a subsidiary of Halliburton, is in the process of activating the FEMA camps according to a leaked memo. I and many others would like to know why these camps are being activated?

I look forward to your response.

Sincerely- Richard W. Firth

Mr. Siefert wasted no time in answering Mr. Firth’s concerns as he provided a hastily prepared same day response.

From: Bob Siefert <bob. [email protected]>
Subject: RE: Level with Public about
FEMA camps
To: “Richard w. Firth” <
[email protected] >
Friday, December 16, 2011, 2:44 PM

Dear Mr. Firth,

Thank you for asking about the truth concerning our search for subcontractors. First, KBR is not a subsidiary of Halliburton, and hasn’t been since April of 2007. KBR intends to respond to an upcoming Request for Proposal. FEMA is looking for companies that can set up temporary camps to house First Responders to natural disasters such as hurricanes, earthquakes, tornados, floods, etc. The services included in the KBR request for information are ones we cannot provide ourselves and will need companies who can react quickly enough to meet the FEMA goal of having a place for their responders to stay within 72 hours of a call up. The camps will be temporary in nature, and nothing is being “activated”. FEMA is trying to be proactive in preparing for timely responses if emergency responses are required. I hope this answers your question.


Bob Siefert
Manager – Small Business

To summarize, KBR’s Siefert asserts that (1) the camps are temporary; (2) the camps are only being constructed for first responders who will be used in anticipated future natural disasters; and (3) the existing FEMA camps are not being activated. Why is the fencing always facing in so as to keep people in if these camps are only for volunteers?

Often in life, there is the stated reason for performing some action and then there is the real reason. Below are some key provisions which are part of the impetus for activating the FEMA camps which are contained in the Siefert KBR memo.

“The Continental US will be broken up into five regions as indicated in the map below Services” will be required in each State within each region.” (Author’s note) Interestingly, the South was also broken up into five military districts during the military occupation of the South during the Reconstruction Era following the Civil War.

“(Contractors will) Establish services listed below within 72 hours for initial set-up and respond within 24 hours for incremental services. This is a CONTINGENCY PROJECT and it should be stressed that lead times will be short with critical requirements due to the nature of emergency responses. Subcontractors must be flexible and able to handle multiple, shifting priorities in an emergency environment.”

Additionally, the KBR Siefert memo disturbingly calls for the installation of fencing and wire used for large scale detention of prisoners.

“Subcontractors will mobilize, transport, erect, install and demobilize temporary fencing, barricades, and associated equipment according to federal, state and local laws, codes and manufacturer installation instructions. The Subcontractor shall be able to mobilize and deploy key personnel(s) within four (4) hours of NTP to meet with KBR Site Manager at the Responder Support Camp (RSC) site in order to finalize the Thsite design plan and acquire site specific design requirements and layout. Number of linear footage:

“Approximately 2,300LF for a 301 person camp after 36 hours of NTP”

“Approximately 3,600LF for 1,000 person camp after 72 hours of NTP”

This sounds like FEMA Camp activation to me.

Through KBR, FEMA has ability to construct this kind of fencing around any mall in 48-72 hours of notification of the need. Malls and stadiums can be converted quickly. If you attend sporting events, you are already being converted to accept FEMA camp detention


When a reasonable person compares Siefert’s original memo to his response to Mr. Firth’s inquiry, the latter is clearly a poorly and hastily orchestrated version of damage control because his original
leaked memo was never meant to see the light of day. The KBR memo called for barricades, barbwire, food, water, sanitation, guards, etc. This is the material that prisons are made of, not temporary housing for first responders as Seifert alleges. Hastily staffed FEMA camp personnel would also fit the definition of first responders in the advent of widespread civil insurrection following something like a massive false flag or a looming currency collapse.

The indisputable fact is that many strip malls are being converted to makeshift FEMA camps that can ready for occupation within three days. I confess, as will many of my colleagues, I have never had such a feeling of foreboding. Something very bad is about to happen, I can feel it in my bones.

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  1. James July 1, 2015 at 6:29 am

    The Mall in Chandler AZ that Simon Properties owns and is shown on their website is IDENTICAL to this Marana Mall. You can google it and see it is exactly the same. Same towers and design.

  2. Keeper Joseph July 1, 2015 at 6:32 am

    There are TWO alreay built “premium outlet” strip malls like those by the closed brandon walmart…right on either side…the bradenton outlet and the orlando outlet

    both by major trian tracks and highway mayjor byways

    there is one of them the philly outlet mall right next to the limerick nuclear plant…like 2 miles….again by major tracks

  3. Without Fear July 1, 2015 at 6:43 am

    While I normally don’t post religious postings (because I find it in a personal nature) I couldn’t help but post this women’s prophetic vision in 2012 of what she was told about going to Walmart for food. It seems to fit. Enjoy.

  4. Nam Marine July 1, 2015 at 6:44 am

    And the SHEEP do their usual……………………NOTHING !
    “They” deserve what is coming for them !

  5. whodowetrust July 1, 2015 at 6:44 am

    I highly suggest the non-sheeple home school.

  6. Craig Mouldey July 1, 2015 at 7:02 am

    People can be in denial all they want, but it shows a gross lack of knowledge of our governments conduct from the not so distant past. They have imprisoned populations before, for no crime committed. Seeing the photos and the KBR memo it shouldn’t be difficult to see the true picture here. As soon as I read the guys response about first responders I wondered ‘then why the fence and barricades’?
    It also seems odd that any company would be building new malls now given that retail is falling through a hole in the basement. Even here in Canada I’ve seen more than enough shuttered factories and malls to know the economy is near dead.
    I haven’t noticed guard towers here in Ontario, but then I’ve lived rural, at least an hour from any mall and 3 hours from a major city. There is a small city an hour away called Lindsey which has a small prison. I had one person tell me he heard fema paid them a visit. When I lived in Niagara there was a John Deere plant closed down in Dane City surrounded by fencing and barbed wire pointing in. Every time I passed it I thought that was very odd.

  7. Incriminally Sane July 1, 2015 at 7:04 am

    I noticed how all the towers are on the perimeters of the “Mall” to cover all cardinal directions in the event of an escape from shopping. These “Malls” are going up everywhere in Colorado with towers all around so it’s pretty easy to put two and two together. I don’t have pictures but if I get time I will certainly get some for you. Thanks Dave

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  9. mike July 1, 2015 at 8:27 am

    Dave ,Thank you for all your work. I read article a couple of months ago about Wal-mart not owning there malls, that it was a contractor, I can’t remember the name, could Simon Properties be the one?

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  11. hunkerdown July 1, 2015 at 8:39 am

    Over 1,000,000 German prisoners of war died inside barbed wire while cradled in the tender merciful care of one General of the Army Dwight David Eisenhower (circa 145-46). The ability of the United States government to surround large areas with injurious wire, cities and countryside, is without parallel in history. Anyone can wake up one bright and sunny morning and find that darkness has engulfed them when their community has been encircled with concertina/barbed wire. Anybody not associated with concertina will find out the hard way the stuff is nasty, nasty indeed. Can’t say much better for barbed wire either. In fact the tens of thousands of miles of all shapes and sizes fences that the government has purchased with our tax dollars causes me much more concern than their tanks, helicopters, and hand held weapons. You can’t outrun a fence. ’nuff said!

  12. calico July 1, 2015 at 8:48 am

    I’ve been very critical of you for the two years I’ve been reading your articles. But after seeing the aerial view of the walmart with the towers even I have received a wakeup call. Guess I need to get some extra food and water after all. Sorry, it takes more time for some of us than for others. Thanks for being persistent.

  13. Arizona July 1, 2015 at 9:02 am

    AFTER KATRINA,america should have CRACKED DOWN on the police gangs and military,and disbanded them all,and the TREASON TRIALS should have began,BUT the whole sale slaugther,of the red list people ONLY had a brief flash of light shown on the police and military,AND WHAT REALLY HAPPENED,now it will happen again in mass this time,and the blood will run in the streets everywhere in america,I personally think anyone who supported these criminals,should be excuted with them…sadly the chinese won’t care,they’ll just rape and murder everyone,including the police gangs and military,watch David Voses latest video on america HERO’S,he doesn’t worship SATANS minions either……….

  14. BritAbroad July 1, 2015 at 9:44 am

    Dear Mr.Hodges.I’ve been reading the net for over 10 years & in that time I’ve learned to ascertain which sites will allege to be “truthers”,or some other such designation but will leave certain other valid truther subjects alone.
    Here are 2 that come to mind in relation to the present impending horror that I’m sure is about to befall America.”DailyKos” & “FreeRepublic”.Kos is actually run by an ex-CIA man (& WHEN ARE SUCH CREATURES ever truly EX?) & is billed as a “progressive” (I.E.,socialist/communist site.Strong Obama supporters in ’06).In the last few months Kos has put out no more that a couple of articles at most which actually mock people for
    worrying about Jade Helm.Suggesting that they’re gun & bible crazies.Free republic bills itself as a site for
    American patriots.They have less than a dozen Jade helm articles,& unlike the sites that you & Mr,Quayle link
    to,seem to be unbothered by the whole Jade helm threat.No mention of the massive and unprecedented movement of military vehicles or the verified presence of foreign troops on American soil – EVER.;;BUT – on neither site may you wver make any comment critical of Israel or the international bankers tribe,I think the American term “go figure”applies to both of what I would
    call U.S. intelligence controlled hangouts.My point is that if such sites are ignoring the things that you & others
    have uncovered,then we can see who is “the enemy within”.And anyone who thinks the danger is exaggerated is done for.
    What uis it the Jewish Torah tells us when faced wit a wrongdoing?.Why,SILENCE IS CONSENT.These sites are silent;thus have consented & are part of,& guilty of, whatever happens.

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  16. Boc July 1, 2015 at 9:57 am

    Dave…as usual, your article is impeccable in detail and information. Please don’t allow the trolls to unduly influence your articles, because they are trolls with an agenda to undermine your information. As for your feeling of foreboding, trust me, you’re not the only one with that feeling!

    Thank you for all your work and may God bless you & your family and keep you safe!

  17. End time servant July 1, 2015 at 10:11 am

    Please stop trying to sell gold or silver stop offending God this materialism will
    Mean nothing when this goes down nothing isn’t ever Going to be the same the
    Big A. Is arriving wake up


  18. Jeff July 1, 2015 at 10:26 am

    Now all our wonderful “for the people” government needs to do is launch a dirty bomb on one of its own cities to justify putting these FEMA gulags to use. I don’t put anything past this regime.

  19. Spice July 1, 2015 at 11:02 am

    I see at top of article that picture could not be downloaded or something like that. Anyways it says it could not be used. How bout take a picture of the screen with a separate camera. Then you can upload the pic from your phone or camera in the format needed. If they pics are there, one will find a way to get out a prove to the masses. If anything those towers are going to be used as guard tower check points and you will be sniped off if your not in right territory. What a good way to put fear in the people, sniper towers at every corner. Do not walk on the grass!!!!

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  21. watcher July 1, 2015 at 11:29 am

    Hey Dave, not related to this specific article, but I read a news article about power outages in San Francisco. Commentators on the article were reporting outages in other states too. Might be worth looking into before this upcoming weekend.

  22. CT July 1, 2015 at 11:37 am

    Something I have noticed about this new “shopping center”is that there is one way in and one way out. I’m talking about that there are not any access roads either to the sides or back.
    I have found it strange that the big box stores have such high fencing in the garden dept. The local Mom and Pop feed store in the town I live in just leave the plants in front of their store. They don’t seem to think it is necessary to have 20ft or higher fencing to guard potting soil and plants.

  23. hunkerdown July 1, 2015 at 1:30 pm

    @watcher: Power was out for 4 hours in Victoria TX. today. It could be legit, but I wonder.

    @CT: In the old days OWIOWO was a military term for canalizing the enemy. It was an acronym for One Way In, One Way Out. Simply put, O-WI-O-WO led them into a KILL ZONE from which there was no way out alive.

  24. Guns N Rosaries July 1, 2015 at 1:32 pm


    With the shuttering of many U.S. retailers, why would someone open up a mall in this economy, which is about to collapse?
    And why would someone want to build so close to the train tracks, which is something that I once thought was real bad for business?

  25. Useless Eater July 1, 2015 at 2:10 pm

    If they are denying that these are guard towers, somebody should write to them and suggest that these would be dangerous places for mass shooters to exploit and ask for them to do something about that – since ISIS and Batman dudes are running around all willy-nilly and shit. You should also let them know that this communication and their response are going to be made public and that you would like to release their response ASAP, you know, to help put all of these public Jade Helm fears to rest.

    I would do it myself but I seem to have this magical ability to be marginalized into a state of oblivion. All I seem to be able to do is ask you guys and others for assistance.

  26. Steve July 1, 2015 at 2:18 pm

    Why is gold being advertised as something to have? It only has value because we think it does. I can’t eat it or drink it, and it won’t help me survive. My advice? Food, ammo, weapons, hygiene products, and things to trade (extra ammo, coffee, cigs, fuel, etc).

  27. Dan July 1, 2015 at 2:42 pm

    Not so sure the picture was a mall.. It did look like a jail or prison .. Can you get som photos of construction company signs truck with company logo …. And a10 digit grid…, trust but verify ….

  28. Seen2013 July 1, 2015 at 2:59 pm

    ““Approximately 2,300LF for a 301 person camp after 36 hours of NTP”

    “Approximately 3,600LF for 1,000 person camp after 72 hours of NTP””

    Varyingly 6-72 hours. This simply depends on travel and deployment.

    “Something very bad is about to happen, I can feel it in my bones.”

    Well, I surmise several somethings bad is going to happen:
    1). The economy is leveraged 6 ways from Sunday, and the Greeks are preparing an exit while the Euro nations are supposed to be prepared by September.
    2). The US has ISIS camps in Mexico acting in conjunction to the Mexican and Sanchez Cartels who are coordinating with Hamas, Hezbollah, and other groups including heavy weapons at a time the administration is pulling out the stops for gun control and desires’ outright confiscation. Like anything else, if you have to register like a ‘marriage license’, it creates a database that is readily available for any determined to exploit it like per say ISIS.
    3). The energy grid and supply is a disaster. It wouldn’t even necessarily need an EMP to take down. I remember years ago when the east coast lost power for hours.
    4). Now, is it normal for institutions like FEMA Corps to be participating in a communication’s black out of participants or seeming so at any rate for approximately 3-4 months?
    Even if it’s domestic somewhere in Rural America?

  29. glennb6 July 1, 2015 at 3:27 pm

    Somehow I was waiting for this… I frequently drive by the mentioned “mall” being built north of Tampa. Have joked with my worker, “oh look, a fema camp” because of the towers. While it ‘could be’ possible, this is a growing area and there are plenty of new traffic lights and access ways that are leading to the new shopping mall. Sometimes a mall is just a mall, and this is a mall under construction. and, why build a new mall (as a fema fun center) when there are plenty of closed malls?

  30. Peggas July 1, 2015 at 3:29 pm

    They may call that a mall, but sure doesn’t look like a mall to me!!!! It’s special built!!! For you know what!!!!

  31. Bruce July 1, 2015 at 4:44 pm

    Dear Dave,

    I do believe that there is an outlet mall / store set up with towers like this in Woodstock Georgia, as well one in Athens Georgia.

    Peace be with you

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  33. the nationalist July 1, 2015 at 7:21 pm

    It’s been too late since Lyndon Johnson assassinated Kennedy. It was just a matter of time to put everything into place. Prepare to meet your God within this year and from now on.

  34. Temple July 1, 2015 at 7:26 pm

    To expand on prev comment from I C, the Outlet Store Mall in Castle Rock Colorado also matches this trend; near railroad tracks and towers in the ends. Though they just broke ground on a new mega mall just up the road from that mall, one they claim will be worth millions. A plan that all seems quite ludicrous if you’re familiar with this area.

  35. Siemreeper July 1, 2015 at 7:30 pm

    This foreboding that I’ve had for years that something horrible is about to happen is what made me leave the country. This feeling is difficult to describe, but the closest I can come is that it’s like a heavy weight, a sort of depression, that destroys the appetite and zest for life. Even though I’m far away from the USSA, this “feeling” lingers on. When will the other shoe drop? All I can say is that if nothing happens by October, the USSA and rest of the world will breathe a HUGE sigh of relief (hopefully)

  36. TRUTH BE TOLD July 1, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    Note To editor…. and when shtf do you think your taking your gold out and going down the street to trade with who? The people who are unprepared and killing or the ones who are prepared and killing? Millions of guns plus billions of rounds no food or water and this equals what? If you don’t already have it well….. good luck with that, on day one when food is already gone from markets with force and who would trade food for gold even the first day? Who here when you can’t get no more food or water will trade their food for gold? In egypt when they had the famine in the bible, first people sold their livestock then their tools and wagons and then their homes and then themselves into slavery just to eat.

  37. Ginny July 2, 2015 at 6:06 am

    Don’t you think we already have enough Gitmos for treasonous politicians?

    …. Oh, you mean they’re not for the politicians? Then …..

  38. Pesky Varmint July 2, 2015 at 7:58 am

    Gold and silver will be useless.

    If the government or banks get wind of you having any after the SHTF, they will confiscate it. And that is why no one who has something you want will want your silver and gold.

    Toilet paper will be more valuable.

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  41. Bogie7129 July 2, 2015 at 5:13 pm

    Dave, thanks for the great work you’ve been doing. I’m new to your site but I’m very interested in what is going on in America today because I have a non-believing family to protect.

    I wanted to mention that in the first two photos you posted above there are high power electrical lines in them. Would this also be a metric to look for in some of these FEMA camps. Railroads, major traffic arteries, large buildings, major power sources? You decide.

    I also wonder that if these FEMA camps are for first responders, not only with the inconsistencies mentioned by others, why are there armed guards and military-type guard dogs inside the wire? Are they protecting the first responders from us?

    My most important question, though, is, why are Americans being targeted in America by our own government? Is there anyone in Congress trying to find answers for We, the People, a la Trey Gowdy, to get us some answers? Why do we have to be anxious about this and live in wonder? I know the first muzzie attackers said, “We intend to change your lives,” but is our own MOTUS, aka King Hussein, the leader?

    Thanks for doing what you do.

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