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The fact that FEMA has recruited up to an estimated 28,000 pastors, as a low end estimate, to as many as 100,000 pastors, as a high end estimate, in order to form the clergy response team is very disturbing, not to mention frightening.

The reports of pastoral betrayal are now coming in from multiple sources and there is no denying where this is headed. Below is an interview that Alex Jones did with my friend Pastor Butch Paugh. I have been on Pastor Butch’s show many times and my experience with him is that he is not only a committed man of God, he is a very serious researcher.  In the following video, Pastor Butch tells Alex just how far FEMA’s plot is to use pastors to entice willing self-incarceration into FEMA camps.


In the following short clip, the DHS/FEMA freely admit to enlisting pastors as part of the Clergy Response Team run by NOVAD.

There is no hiding it now, it is out in the open.



As if the Clergy Response Teams are not enough to convince you that your church has been compromised by the non-Christian forces connected to the globalists, then you need to consider the impact of 501c3 regulations and how they limit the preaching of the word of God from the pulpits of America.

Stunning Interview with Pastor/Congressman Admitting DHS/IRS Is Telling Pastors What They Cannot Say from the Pulpit

MSNBC interviewed a pastor, who also happens to be the Chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, Emmanuel Cleaver (D-MO.). Representative Cleaver stated very clearly that Preachers are being muzzled by the 501c3 regulations being enforced for the Justice Department and the IRS. In 2014, Representative Cleaver headed up a meeting with several thousand clergy along with representatives from FEMA, the IRS and Eric Holder. According to Cleaver, the pastors minister to a total of about 10 million Christians.

Cleaver clearly stated that the purpose of the meeting was to “equip the pastors with what they need to know about what they can say and not say in the church…

If you find this too hard to believe, let the Congressman tell you in his own words what I have just written here.



Through the 501c3 regulations, DHS and FEMA have made it nearly impossible for your pastor to tell you the truth as to what is coming.


How Common Is the Undermining of the Church?


As part of the Clergy Response Team training, their initial and primary training was to tell their flock to obey the DHS version of Romans 13.

“Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: that be ordained of God.” Romans 13:1


Pastor Mansfield’s “Insider” Revelations

After watching a number of videos and interviewing several pastors with regard to the undermining of the church by FEMA/DHS, I interviewed a whistleblower who was a pioneer in the formation of the Clergy Response Team, Pastor Walt Mansfield.

Pastor Mansfield was among the first of the pastors recruited to become a part of the Clergy Response Team. The revelations he conveyed to me about this program had pastors doing a whole lot more than preaching Romans 13. But before going to the disturbing contents of the interview, let’s take a look at relevant legislation which helps to legitimize Pastor Mansfield’s outrageous claims.Pastor Mansfield was recruited to become a member of the Clergy Response Team which would operate under the control of NOVAD and DHS. Mansfield’s revelations about his experiences are stunning and concerning at the same time.

Pastor Mansfield attended several briefings and he could barely believe his ears. He learned of the government’s plan to enact martial law as well as to implement forced population relocations. Mansfield emphasized that when martial law is enacted, the enforcement would be immediate. In other words, family members will be separated from each other and part of the training that the clergy received was how to comfort separated family members.

Pastor Mansfield emphasized that the FEMA/DHS drills were predicated on bioterrorism. The pastors were trained to go to homes were people refused to be relocated by the authorities and  their immediate job was to convince the reluctant to willingly go to the relocation camps. Ostensibly, this was to be done in lieu of sending in the SWAT teams.

I asked Mansfield if FEMA camps were real and he stated that much of the clergy training focused around this scenario of pastors operating within the forced relocation centers. The main goal of a pastor assigned to a FEMA camp was to bring order and encourage compliance with DHS requests, hence, the emphasis on Romans 13.

The pastors were forced to sign  anon-disclosure.The most interesting and disturbing fact that I learned was the fact that the pastors were told not to quote Scripture. The DHS document which was prepared for the pastors clearly stated that Scripture had been used to “oppress” people in the past and the presenters strongly discouraged its use. Please see the following excerpt from one of the DHS training manuals:

Healing Scripture and Prayer In the Pastoral Crisis Intervention

“During a time of crisis people do go through a “crisis of faith.”

Sometime quick mention of God and scripture may not be helpful. As we all know the Scripture has been used to oppress, dominate and at the same time used for healing and reconciliation- renewing of relationship with God and people. If the pastor senses it is appropriate to use the scripture and prayer, it must carefully be done for healing of victims not to uphold pastoral authority.” (Page 14)  

In other words, all legitimate pastoral authority was abrogated by the pastors who participated in the roundup of American citizens.


Also on page 14 of the same training document, pastors were admonished to avoid “Unhealthy God talk….” Specifically pastors are ordered to avoid using references to God when helping people cope with the loss of a loved one:

        “4. God must have needed him/her more than you.”

        “5. God never gives more than we can handle.


Pastor Mansfield also revealed that pastors will be issued badges under the Clergy Response Team program. Any pastor not displaying the badge, indicating that they have been trained under these guidelines, will not be permitted into the established and designated “DHS safety zones”. This reminds me of the banishment of religious figures from Plymouth Colony who, in good conscience, refused to go along with some of the extremism of that day. Pastors are absolutely forbidden to publicly to speak about any aspect of the program. If you were to ask your pastor if they are a FEMA trained pastor, they will not likely tell you.

Disturbingly, Pastor Mansfield reiterated several times that the number one job of these pastors is to calm down people and encourage their compliance within the peoples’ new surroundings (i.e. FEMA camps).

Pastor Mansfield also stated that pastors will be utilized as informants. This violates the legal privilege of confidentiality between pastor and church-goer, that is currently recognized by law. All church-goers can no longer trust the sanctity of personal confessions and revelations made to pastors, priests or rabbis. This one illegal act by DHS completely undermines the Christian Church in America! Many of us have been quick to point out that this bastardization of the Romans 13 is designed to force compliance to government edicts who might not otherwise comply.


 Related Background Legislation

On December 31, 2011, President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) into law which in addition to allocating $662 billion to the Pentagon also contains a measure which allows U.S. citizens to be taken into custody and held indefinitely without ever being charged with a crime.

Not only can any citizen deemed a threat to “national security interests of the United States,” be held forever without receiving a trial, but the military will be the ones arresting those citizens.

NDAA Section 1022, subsection c allows “(1) Detention under the law of war without trial until the end of the hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force.”

The National Emergency Centers Act or HR 645 mandates the establishment of “national emergency centers” to be located on military installations for the purpose of providing “temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster,” according to the bill.

The legislation also states that the camps will be used to “provide centralized locations to improve the coordination of preparedness, response, and recovery efforts of government, private, and not-for-profit entities and faith-based organizations”.

The bill also provides that the camps can be used to “meet other appropriate needs”, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security. This is a carte blanche mandate that many fear could mean the forced detention of American citizens in the event of widespread rioting following a national emergency or a total economic collapse.



What pastor could, in good conscience, participate in this heinous program? Only a pastor who has turned their back on Jesus could ever be a part of such a tyranny. The pastors in America are being coerced to participate because when an emergency is declared, no pastor, who does not have the “FEMA-trained government badge” will be allowed to be in a declared “emergency” area. Pastor Mansfield and many of the other pastors that I spoke with, felt strongly this was the government’s way of removing Jesus from America’s landscape and set the stage for the ushering in of a new-age religion.

It is mindboggling to fathom how so many reporters and media types deny the existence of FEMA camps under these circumstances. It is also disturbing that any pastor would agree to participate in a program in which Jesus and the Bible end up on the cutting room floor. The only viable way to preserve Christianity is for all Christians to leave their churches and form Bible home study groups. 

Since I began investigating how widespread the takeover of the chuch is by DHS/FEMA, I have been contemplating the potential wisdom of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn who made the following quote:

Solzhenitsyn once said that:

“We should have resisted the KGB at the front door. If the KGB thought that they might not go home that night, the Russian people might have had a different fate”.



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  1. Jim February 25, 2015 at 4:55 am

    Dave great article, me and my family are going down fighting. Jesus is lord and savior. They come in my house sorry to say they are not going home.

  2. LoneWolf - ALL AMERICAN INFIDEL February 25, 2015 at 5:33 am

    I would venture to say, pastors involved in the treasonous act of aiding and abetting STASI and other devil’s minions in the unconstitutional roundups and internment of patriots – would end up being shot on sight. Just sayin…

  3. john February 25, 2015 at 7:10 am

    At this point, it will not matter as to when we americans will be detained and put into these fema camps. I say this, because of this video that i have watched. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5mPLRfud0A

    As you will find out from this youtube channel, a disaster is a rapidly approaching, and thus, the fema camps will not matter. Tsunami waves will soon crash down on the east coast, forcing the rivers to go backwards, which in turn, will flow into the 400+ nuclear reactors that are in the northern hemisphere. Once that happens, we will only have a month at the most, before the northern hemisphere becomes completely inhabitable. I know not of many people who would like to survive out of this, but for those that would, the only safe place is in the the top elevations of the southern hemisphere. The earth will become a water world, so most of us, if not all of us human beings, will be dead. It is not a matter of it it will happen, but a matter of when. So if anyone who reads this wants to survive, you have to leave the northern hemisphere now. Now before some of you start to call this post insane and what not, this youtube channel that i have been following has done extensive research, a very good channel i would say. The fema camps won’t matter. When this happens, nearly all of us will be dead, regardless if martial law has already been declared or not.

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  5. Fred February 25, 2015 at 7:42 am

    Would these pastors be listed as Federal Employees? Maybe that’s how we could find out who signed up to sell us out…

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  8. John February 25, 2015 at 8:24 am

    This is a good start Dave now go a little further up the chain of command past the government controled lackey’s to the orchestrators behind the scenes around the world. The Vatican , yes the heart of the religious crime organization . I like to call it Religion Incorporated , The only religion that has it’s own country , bank , police force, money, second largest land owner in the world beside the queen of England. Pay not a dime in taxes has financial holdings in just about every major corporations from food to banking around the world. The Vatican bank launders money from drug cartels to governments around the world. The largest pedafile ring in the world. I know your talking about DHS here but nobody ever puts the light on the real criminals in organized religion the Pope and the Vatican. I never felt I needed a middle man to speak to god and always found sunday church a mind control mind screw job. I loathe the church as much as I do government and Hollywood / actors.

  9. Flipper February 25, 2015 at 9:02 am

    I’m a follower of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the son of God. I don’t do church though especially protestant churches.


  11. Tea For One February 25, 2015 at 9:39 am

    Very apt article, which gives insight into the incremental way in which the gov’t is working to set up all the pieces for coming expansion of tyranny. Thank you for sharing this info, especialy about the clergy response teams.

    I recommend more coverage of the issue of the DUMBs.



  12. laura m. February 25, 2015 at 10:29 am

    Any minister/priest that goes along with this DHS response team agenda is a low life scum bag-traitor. Folks get out of these 501c3 gov churches now. They operate as money grabbing social clubs with “feel good” sermons and zombie type music. Gov control of churches started in 1954 and law did not force them into a 501, it was by choice/greed for tax ded.. Hierarchies in all denominations are 501c3. Home church or meet in small groups, keeping no books, records of any kind. but just for simple fellowship only, in someone’s house or business. The gov controlled churches (run by gelded sissy/cowards) will also have informants who will sit in the pews or choir or Bible classes. Don’t waste any more time or money in these reprobate churches. Other’s have warned about this issue in other websites for some time along with this site,
    Dave Daubenmire, Chuck Baldwin, etc., News with Views, etc. See: hushmoney.org. also: sermon audio.com for home church sermons.

  13. Lynn Maust February 25, 2015 at 10:37 am

    “From my cold dead hands”!!!

  14. lyndeelou February 25, 2015 at 10:38 am

    Again…’from my cold, dead hands”!

  15. Philip February 25, 2015 at 11:04 am

    For all its egregious and historical nauseum, this latest act of blasphemy and abuse of trust by government and clergy is really nothing new in principle. At the age of 65 now, I can clearly remember being taken to church as a teenager during the Vietnam War period (1963 – 1968 is when we went to a large nearby church). Never was there a peep about a war based upon a pack of lies enabled by a President’s murder (along with others). Needless to say, looking for a sermon reference to the government’s massive drug smuggling while waging a merciless War On Drugs – primarily the already poor and disadvantaged at that time – would have been a lesson in abject futility. I guess their Bible didn’t mention nations portrayed as beasts trampling and devouring people, those who had enriched themselves at others’ expense & their deserved place in eternal flames, and Jesus’ portrayal – evidently – as willing to take in anyone with sincere God-given repentance. On this last point, even the Old Testament has some wonderful examples of previously-hopeless and damned people catching the eye of God upon deep repentance (so much for The Rule Of Law, eh?). Read about Manasseh and Ben-Hadad at their end. Perhaps I’d write more from our Arizona town here, but the military helicopters which have been increasingly pounding our eardrums day and night are distracting me. Last night, they were circling around until almost 1 A.M. They began again early this morning, using as base the Lauglin-Bullhead City airport. Gee, if I didn’t know better, I’d day that doing this since last December non-stop might indicate some future operation we should be informed about. Better call a pastor and get his opinion.

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  18. TG USMC February 25, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    Hello Dave, my fellow friend of freedom. If I heard a pastor trying to get people to follow what this illegal government tells them to do, just bought their ticket to hell. And the most important fact they should know is that they are not bullet proof!

  19. bo February 25, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    It is imperative that we see the Word of God active in the political arena today and understand it in light of His purpose for government and legitimate governance. God-ordained authority results in dominion, whereas illegitimate power results in domination. The question we must continually ask regarding the current regime is:Is it acting under the divine authority of God or is acting as the divine authority in the place of God? If the current authorities are acting as Babylon, passing itself off as the ultimate authority, while portraying itself as Jerusalem, the agent of Godly authority, then we must follow our conscience with respect to the command to be subject to authority as found in Romans 13.

    The problem in making the determination of legitimacy in our rulers is found in the criteria by which we judge them. Is government’s duty simply to keep order or are there other factors we must consider? It seems self-evident that central to shaping our opinion of legitimacy of the prevailing authority would be tied to the justness of the current regime. That being said we are no richer in our understanding of this seminal criterion in that we have no immutable or objective way to determine what is just in the political arena. Justice in the political arena is largely determined by situations, customs, philosophies or even the ethics of the day. Despite the well intentioned but naïve protestations of rationalists, no abstract or definitive meaning of political justice can be divined.

    How then do we determine the moral plumb line that delineates justness? We must, as biblical people, find the answer to this most pressing conundrum in God’s Word. It is the touchstone by which all else is measured. A just ruler is one who, by virtue of his God ordained position, is obligated to seek the welfare of the people and to promote their common interests. The governing powers are mandated by their loyalty to God as his appointed authority on earth to continually seek that which is in the best interests of the governed or they are duty-bound to both God and man to resign their position. Their obligation to the governed requires that laws are plain and simple to understand so that the most vulnerable in our society are not at the mercy of rich or erudite knaves. It is the duty of rulers to promote an environment wherein every life is not only valued but is valuable as well, in which liberty is not a license for bad conduct amongst a select few, but a real and tangible way of life for all and one in which equality and impartiality is as true for the least of us as it is for the most privileged. If the sovereign expects to be obeyed for sake of conscience, he will do nothing inconsistent with these divine mandates.

    If those who bear the title or occupy the office of a sovereign and exercise not the duties therein, surely we are not obliged to blindly acquiesce to their dictates. Just leadership is not determined simply by title of office, but rather is judged by the execution of those duties which promulgate the well-being of those that they rule. A government is judged not on its great and mighty exploits, whether they be in art, science or in the machinery of war, but rather on how the least in our society are treated. When rulers are remiss in the most basic obligations to the governed it is not only the right, but also the responsibility of the governed to rise up and supplant them with men who will attend to the needs of the most defenseless of our populace.

  20. JFY February 25, 2015 at 4:09 pm

    There is a special place in hell for the shepherds who, knowing full well the evilness of their actions, lead the Lord’s flock into the Wolve’s jaws. “Disgraceful” doesn’t even begin to dexcribe this.

    They are collaborators of the worst order and treasonous beyond belief. If ever the penalty for treason was deserved by someone, it is by these individuals; even before the Lord gets to them.

  21. dmitry February 25, 2015 at 4:51 pm

    Thank you Dave for this very informative article.

    Take care always.

  22. Kevin G February 25, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    Boy! These pastors or IMposters, sold their souls to the damn devil! They may change their minds when they find out the people will be willing to “Blow them away” too when it comes to protecting themselves and their families! I sure as H won’t hesitate in shutting their taps off!

  23. EB February 25, 2015 at 7:02 pm

    Only if there’s free Wi-Fi! That’s a joke of course but you can bet your bottom silver dollar that plenty of sheeple will be fighting to get on the FEMA bus for a free meal.
    It is reprehensible that pastors are selling (or have already sold) their souls to the devil by guiding their flocks to concentration/death camps.

  24. 2tugjug February 25, 2015 at 8:06 pm

    I been sensing this from many of the radio/tv pastor’s but how much inclusiveness their may be?!
    Many here (reading at site) believe’s the church goes through Daniel’s week, clearly this is not Biblical! Not escapes’s but doctrinal Bearian’s – clearly we can see how the Harlot gets implemented – back to topic, when we have people prancing around calling themselves Reverend & others calling themselves Apostles who are Biblically stupid or have been brainwashed by some liberal seminary’s – I can help but agree 100 percent on your (Dave’s) article! evangelical’s today have no resemblance to Evangelical’s yesterdays – the flock’s are fed, no one (hardly) even knows what the great Commission is about, totally opposite of this social propaganda BS!
    *I do expect many 501 (3) c’s to jump ship & get totally onboard w/what Jesus originally Commissioned and the Flock may lead! People hunger for the 2 edged sword truth and run from the Joel O’Steen’s etc, the early church is on the near horizon, death & it’s implemented process’s fear’s will diminish the moment they see things the ways Jesus did, for this reason, huge numbers will come to Christ and all of Israel will be Saved.
    *Biblically, all of Israel is not everyone who lives there, unfortunately for many of the ‘dry bone’ believer’s!
    ** as bible Doug and many many other’s believe heavy persecution is coming here and once the restraining Holy spirit in us (church) is removed God’s 7 yr Wrath can now begin.
    ***anyone who believes they can prep for His wrath and enter it has been deceived and aren’t even saved, I’m sorry, I have to answer to Him, not man, it’ll be sorrowful enough at the Beema seat, I’m not going to make it worse, if i can help, w/His help!

  25. Blatzer February 25, 2015 at 10:11 pm

    EVERY pastor I’ve ever spoken with re: end times/patriotism/501c3 affiliation has done the following- deny, argue, excuse, divert, change the subject, not respond…. you get the picture. all i can say is folks, you get what you pay for

  26. American mom February 26, 2015 at 8:09 am

    I met two genuine pastors at Camp Constitution last summer – Rev. Steven Craft of NJ and Pastor Lear of Mass. Rev Craft has a great book “Freedom and Morality, America’s Dynamic Duo.” Each speaks out against UN Agenda 21 and all other items highlighted by Dave.

    I didn’t meet Kris Anne Hall’s husband JC. However, Kriss Anne was fired for lecturing about the Constitution and educating Tea Parties. JC has a ministry in Florida I believe.

    True preachers who are fighting for America and stand in Patriotism
    are rare, but they do exist.

  27. Tony G February 26, 2015 at 8:17 am

    I looked in the NDAA for 2014 and the draft for 2015 I cannot find this. Can you put up a link where this info comes from. With the Act renewed every year I am not sure what was put in 2011 still stands today if it is not in the current Act .

  28. lynda February 26, 2015 at 8:39 am

    any informant “pastor” comes to my house they better be wearing level 3 body armor.

  29. lynda February 26, 2015 at 8:48 am

    I’ve read in comments that “the queen of england is the largest land owner in the world”
    she is also a “dame of malta” subordinat to the pope:


  30. Pastor Mansfield February 26, 2015 at 9:41 am

    Dave, you have put together a good comprehensive article with this one.

    I will comment on why a Pastor would take this training to become part of these Teams. I have talked with some who didn’t know of my background with the Teams and were quite open. Some say it provides them “an opportunity to minister to more folks in a disaster situation.” True enough when you understand that only FEMA trained Pastors will have access to disaster sites. Some did so because “it was free training offered by the government.” Seriously? Others said it would “expand the outreach of their church.” I took that to mean it could help their church “grow.”

    Another question I would like to address is: “How can these Hirelings be found?” One way is to ask. These guys are proud of what they’ve done. Another is to show up at city or county Disaster Drills in your area– They may not be wearing a windbreaker with the words “Clergy Response Team” but will stand out as they can be found among groups of “victims”– the Team member will have that “caring” look about them. Another is to see if your Pastor is attending follow-up training at your county EMA office or satellite location in your area.

    If a church in your area is allowing these Drills to take place on church property, you can be assured that Pastor is on board with the Teams.

    Watch for sermons on Romans 13. Not that preaching on that passage is wrong, but find out if a blanket obedience to government is being taught. That was one of lessons taught to Pastors in the training I attended.

    I am not excusing a Pastor for thinking he is doing good by participating in these Teams. No, he has sold out his calling as a Shepherd. I find it troubling that many who become part of these Teams are well aware of what they are doing. They must be stopped.

    Hope this helps. Remember– you are the one to stand up against this!

  31. jjgghtt February 26, 2015 at 11:33 am

    “When you see leaders of My people falling dead, you won’t rejoice, and you won’t stop my hand.”

  32. Anne February 26, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    Dave, I truly commend you for your outspoken devotion to us and for your love of the truth. Your rewards in Heaven will be many. Yeah, I know that’s not why you do what you do. You are the man on the wall watching out. Thank you for your tireless work.

  33. Kevin G February 26, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    I wold just like to add that when and if the day comes that “THEY” “THEM” come for me to take me away to kill me, they will have to do it right here at home, I guarantee it, I have lived almost 54 years and I’m quite ready to go, but I’m sure as hell aint going to continue through a satanic-mind-controlled,microchip controlled fire breathing Egotistical-Nephilim,Annunaki Maniac- kreeps over me!

  34. Burbinski February 26, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    Well I picked up 46 year old book the other day, it is called Tortured For Christ by Richard Wurmbrand. It describes how the Russians did exactly what is described in the above article…The Russians got the pastors to cooperate and tell them what their sheep was doing and on that the KGB would come and take the sheep away to be imprisoned and tortured for Christ.

    It’s a pretty wild account of this pastors time while in prison for 14 years. if you can get your hands on a copy do so and see what is in store for the church here in the west.

    if someone wants my copy Ill ship it out to you and I will even pay the shipping,

  35. Floyd February 27, 2015 at 10:39 am

    It seems that the World’s Elite have enticed the Shepherds to go along with their evil plans based upon the Law of Governance that is revealed by Paul in Romans 13.

    But, there is a strong clarification given in the Bible that states absolutely the position of the Lord in regard to Romans 13, as it applies to the entire world in this very time.

    Here is the audio link:

    The Archangel Michael and His Great Romans 13 Question

    Also see the latest News and Audio here (right column):


  36. Joley643 February 27, 2015 at 7:28 pm

    Dave: Is there a list of these pastors anywhere and where are all these FEMA camps located. I have heard about them for years but dom’t know where they are. Is this part of the DHS? Who started these camps? Obama? I know Obama is anti-American by his own actions so would not be surprised? How many elected politicians kmow about the recruitment of pastors? You don’t mention Cathoic priests as part of the pastor mix.

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