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The Hammond Ranch Affair Will Become Waco II

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The coming showdown between 150+ Patriots who have gathered near Burns, Oregon is grossly misunderstood by the general public. The following paragraphs shed light on both the history of the present conflict between the Hammonds and the federal government as well as the current status of the situation. It is the express hope of The Common Sense Show, that calmer heads prevail and the present crisis does not end in the loss of life.

The Beginning of the Present Hammond Ranch Crisis

Dwight Hammond and son Steve Hammond, were convicted of lighting fires on federal land. Federal prosecutors wanted blood, overreacted and pursued the two in what could be described as a case of malicious prosecution.

The Hammond family leased land from the BLM for cattle grazing. Steven Hammond started a fire on his own land for noxious weed control. The fire escaped and burned an acre of BLM land that was leased by the Hammond family that they were using to graze cattle. The act was an accident and there was no bad intent on the part of the Hammonds. However, prosecutors sought long prison sentences despite the fact that the damage was extremely minimal. The latest act of burning on BLM land was only one of three actions committed by the Hammonds as similar accidents occurred in 2001 and 2006. Then the feds threw the book at the father-son combination. Most people that review the history of this conflict view the Hammonds as reckless, but agree that their actions were carried out without purposeful criminal intent.

Incredibly, the father and son duo were tried and convicted under the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, created by Congress in response to the Oklahoma City bombing. This represented to many a gross miscarriage of justice and served as a shining example of federal tyranny at its worst. Under the Act’s mandatory minimum sentencing requirements, both of the Hammond family members faced a mandatory minimum sentence of five years in prison. And to remind of the public of why we should mistrust the application of federal law enforcement authority, the U.S. Attorney Amanda Marshall was quoted as saying “The verdict sends an important message to those who think that they are above the law.” It’s not as if the Federal government is not already too big, but one would think that the Federal court system would employ a public relations expert to help guide their comments and actions when it comes to the public perception of the carrying out of their mandated duties.

Fortunately, for the Hammonds, a federal judge, acting with much more common sense in October of 2012, the now retired judge, Michael Hogan, ordered the sentences to be dramatically reduced and the payment of restitution was ordered. Most thought this was a reasonable sentence. However, US Attorney Marshall, not satisfied the sentence appealed the case and a three judge appellate panel on the of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, ruled that the men had to serve the minimum sentence. This was outrageous. These two men were not and are not terrorists. Of course, as many who follow these cases know, the federal government’s standard operating procedure is to label anyone that they don’t like as a terrorist, which exponentially increases the penalties associated with prosecution.  Subsequently, in October of 2014, the Hammonds were ordered to surrender, once again, to federal authorities in order to serve out their five year sentence. It is a mystery how this ruling serves justice, it does not. The elder Hammond is 73 years old!

The Situation Goes Critical

hammondsAfter the re-sentencing was announced, over 300 local Hammond supporters protested. This subsequently drew the attention of members of self-identified Patriots who later organized and began arriving on the scene in December of 2015. Ammon Bundy, whose family faced BLM challenges to their right use BLM land after generations of doing so, two years ago, became the spokesperson for the Patriots involved in the present crisis which has resulted in the seizure of a federal building in the area. Bundy has stated that he is in this for the “long haul”. Cliven Bundy, Ammon’s father, has stated that he is not involved in the present crisis. The crisis is considered to be so volatile, that local schools are suspended for the week in anticipation of a violent federal crackdown similar to what the country observed over 20 years ago at Waco.

Ammon Bundy summoned “militia members” to the scene and encouraged them to bring their arms. He has stated that violence is not his intent, but self-defense cannot be ruled out. Does Mr. Bundy think that the Federal government is simply going to ignore the take over of one of its own facilities, no matter how humble the facility is? There will be a confrontation!

The Present Status of the Crisis

Up until the late hours of Sunday evening, I have been receiving communications from people on the scene in Oregon. Then suddenly, the communications went totally dark and my text messages are going unanswered. There are two possibilities. First, the group could have made a collective decision to not issue statements at this time. Or, the communications of the Patriot group, could have been cut off in preparation for an attack upon the seized federal building.

Also, on late Sunday evening, I was in communication with Pastor Butch Paugh. He is scheduled to have Ammon Bundy on his radio show this morning along with Sheriff Richard Mack. The key question remains, will Ammon Bundy still be alive by air time? Will he be in custody as federal officials, in force are arriving at the scene in which Bundy led forces have taken over a federal building. The situation in Oregon is dire. Local law enforcement is demonizing the men who have taken over the Federal building as determined by the following quote by Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward:hammond oregon sheriff

“These men came to Harney County claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers, when in reality these men had alternative motives to attempt to over throw the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States.

We are currently working jointly with several organizations to make sure the citizens of Harney County are safe and this issue is resolved as quickly and peaceful as possible. At this time we do not have any information that any other areas in Harney County are in immediate danger.

We ask that people stay away from the refuge for their safety. We also ask that if anyone sees any of these individuals in the area to please contact law enforcement and do not confront the individuals themselves”.

I view this quote from the Sheriff as preemptive and an example of provocative conditioning to get the public to lose all sympathy for the Patriot group and to demonize them in the arena of public opinion. The citizens of this area desperately need a new Sheriff.


This Could End Very Badly

The initial assault upon the Branch Davidian compound as carried out by the ATF in which federal officials were fired upon.

The initial assault upon the Branch Davidian compound as carried out by the ATF in which federal officials were fired upon.


I am making a comparison between what happened at Waco, over 20 years ago, and what is likely to happen in Oregon. What happened in Waco?

In February of 1993, agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms raided the Branch Davidian cult compound in Waco, Texas, prompting a gun battle in which four agents and six cult members are killed. The federal agents were attempting to arrest the leader of the Branch Davidians, David Koresh, on information that the religious sect was stockpiling weapons. A nearly two-month standoff ensued after the unsuccessful raid.

Eventually, Attorney General (AG), Janet Reno, who strikingly reminds one of present AG, Loretta Lynch, ended the siege by burning out and killing most of the inhabitants at the compound including scores of women and children.

As Federal Law Enforcement Officials solidify their position this morning, on the scene, does anyone think it is likely that these federal agents are mindful of what happened to four ATF agents at Waco? Does anyone else think that it is likely that the 155 patriots will be given one command, and on command only, to surrender prior to attacking the occupied federal building?

These are the pictures of the four ATF agents that were killed in the original Waco raid. Does anyone else think it is likely that this event at Waco will guide federal LEO actions today in Oregon?


Special Agent Steven David Willis and Special Agent Conway Charles LeBleu were both killed in the raid


Special Agent Robert John Williams and Special Agent Todd Wayne McKeehan were also honored at a 20 year ceremony after being killed in the raid. Again, is anyone naive enough to believe that the memories of the fallen agents are not going to guide the actions of federal law enforcement authorities in terms of the level of violence that will be applied in Oregon? Does anyone else think that the federal briefings with its agents include the photos I have chosen to display here?

Oath Keepers Has Withdrawn from the Scene

Here, in a statement, by the President and Founder of Oath Keepers, Stewart Rhodes explains why his organization has withdrawn from the scene in Oregon.

It is clear that the Hammonds do not want these actions to go forward. This is not the hill to die on. There will be a time to take a stand on the gross violation of our civil liberties that are presently under attack. However, without the support of the victims (ie the Hammonds), the legitimacy of such an armed rebellion is called into question. Should the federal government be called to task on this? Absolutely! However, if blood is shed over this issue, and without the support of the Hammonds, what does this do to the public perception? The media will paint the Patriots as domestic terrorists and the public will think that any use of force against the Patriots is justified and necessary. Then, who looks like the thugs?

Was the Bundy ranch event justified in terms of the response generated by the Patriot community? Of course it was. These are two entirely different scenarios.

As a footnote, as we saw in the Bundy Ranch Affair, Chinese mineral interests are beginning to surface. Stay tuned, we are watching history in the making.

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  1. grayfox114 January 4, 2016 at 6:37 am

    Being a firm believer in the adage that “Silence is Consent” I have been burning up the wires on what is happening! I have reached the same conclusions as you, I am certain this will not end well for the winners or the losers, but that is what was desired in the first place. Our government(Obama and his ilk) do not care who or how many get killed, they will advance their agenda! The militia is in a corner, whether they know it or not: They can’t be left alone or allowed to make their point, the gov’t will lose face, they can’t back down because they will lose all credibility with the people……..they’re going to be killed, the only thing that would save them would be the appearance of Jesse Jackson and Sharpton on scene! I do not believe armed insurrection is the answer, but it would appear the political process we have hitched our wagon to is in the ditch! So where do we go??? They ARE coming for our guns, they could care less how plain their intentions are! They control the mainstream media and they are demonizing gun owners and patriots to the max! I am listening to Beck as I write this, he is preaching restraint, working within the system, using peaceful and political means to achieve our goals…….I WANT TO SCREAM! WHAT IS IT THAT HAS GOTTEN US TO THIS POINT? Political correctness! And the opposition is banking on us continuing to pursue political correctness while the knot the rope and dig the holes! This reminds me of Britain prior to WW2, dealing with the Nazis! “They have signed a non aggression paper, we are entering a peaceful era!” BS! The same thing here! We are entering a most tumultuous and trying time, and It’s going to end badly! Your thoughts and opinion?

  2. jb January 4, 2016 at 6:41 am

    It’s obvious they are trying to incite trouble in Oregon and all over the USA. It’s beginning like s slow drip that will become a deluge. Dave, you must leave the USA. We need your vital info and they are gunning for you. No one will think you a coward if you flee. We need your kind to keep us informed.

  3. steveyoung January 4, 2016 at 7:10 am

    I have been up all night over what is happening. I’m 59 yrs. young and can barely see the keyboard through the tears. Mr. Hammond looks and acts like my departed father-in-law, or my own departed dad for that matter ! The LIES that permeate our gov. and society grow everyday. I believe Mr. H. released the statement through his attorney choosing rather to sacrifice his own twilight years, leave his loving wife and family, rather than risk seeing anyone’s blood shed for him!
    I own a nice handgun, but my offer would not be to travel the 1575 miles for armed support, because I am nothing compared to the men who are already there. If it was in any way possible, I would offer to serve his time in jail as a proxy- this man has done all he can !! I’ve got no job (but I have the funds to get there), a wonderful loving wife, and probably one of the best nephews on the planet, ALL THAT I HAVE !
    God Almighty knows, I wish there was some way for me to take his place
    I originally posted this at about 4 this morning, I have posted a short version on several articles, and sent emails to the staff writers. My wife showed me how to ‘cut and paste’ , so here it is ! Please check into this infowars, if you want to search for a peaceful resolution

  4. Craig Mouldey January 4, 2016 at 7:37 am

    I’ve been concerned about this for several days for the reasons you mention.
    The federal agencies are evil as are the courts and local officials. Even their sheriff is a Federal thug. This entire event cooked up by the federal government is wrong and a severe over reach of designated authority.
    But they can’t win hold up in a building. They will be killed and Obama will come out and paint this as a bunch of heavily armed white terrorists who wanted to over throw the government. Isn’t this entity speaking with Lynchmob today about his ‘options’ on gun confiscation? They are playing right into a trap and they will have died for nothing and the government is sitting their licking their chops because this is just what they wanted.

  5. Marshal Scot January 4, 2016 at 8:35 am

    The object was to surround us with increasing perversion and degradation for the last 60-70 years till we are EASY to control( totally separated from God). See Numbers chapter 25 to see what methods were used to destroy just as Israel was right on the brink of crossing over the Jordan into the promised land. (a symbol of where we are now.)

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  7. Mike January 4, 2016 at 9:19 am

    This is not only history in the making. This is, in small part, the end of the United States of America in the making.

  8. Why January 4, 2016 at 9:34 am

    Why did you sell out your fellow man?

  9. C.E.R. January 4, 2016 at 9:46 am

    It’s my understanding in reviewing this case that there WAS NO jury trial, but rather an unsigned indictment handed down. Can anyone confirm or deny?

  10. Philip January 4, 2016 at 10:08 am

    U.S. Attorney Amanda Marshall references to the Oklahoma City bombing of April 19th 1993 ? That would be the incident where all the FBI, ATF and other Feds took the day off to go golfing, having been warned (Ambrose Evans Pritchard of the Economist and now the Telegraph wrote all about this), all went golfing that day, leaving the daycare children and other non-law enforcement heroes to be blown to smithereens. That would be the bombing wherein Timothy McVeighs truck thingy could not possibly have caused the McMurrah building’s damage, and where reports of thermite and other devices have been suppressed. Imagine that.

    This is a lying murderous government steeped in the theft of trillions, slaughter of millions, and the rape of all our privacies, for whom the law means less than used toilet paper. And if you think I wouldn’t say this to Ms. Marshall’s face…..maybe you would be right. It would be like talking to a full toilet.

  11. Rebel January 4, 2016 at 10:10 am

    Sad, that Americans are being forced off their property by the Federal Government in this country. The agenda 21 in place across the country, is unlawful. I blogged a few days ago that this would be another Waco incident. I fully agree with your article, Dave. I do not see a peaceful end to this situation in Oregon. My prayers go out to all.

  12. RickE January 4, 2016 at 10:52 am

    Obama is having a “town hall ” meeting on Thursday, and this incident will help fuel his anti gun message that will be forthcoming.
    What these folks in Oregon are doing is to help the gun control people in their quest to ban guns.
    I understand the angst and concerns of the Bundy and the Hammond families have about the issues here, but the timing of the whole thing really stinks, and will undoubtedly give the gun grabbers ammo in which to use.

  13. oath January 4, 2016 at 10:53 am

    The Waco was said by some to be a CIA mind control operation, like Jim Jones. And of course other religious fanatics in and around these areas/events.
    So this could be just another staged event with 100 + mind control slaves (or at least a percentage of them). Maybe another tool to bring my property confiscation, law, taxes. As well as gun control.
    “Therefore, when you seed the (Barack) (O)bamanation of desolation standing where he ought naught, let those who are in America stockpile their guns.”
    Close enough.

  14. NaturalBoredCitizen January 4, 2016 at 11:39 am

    First: Where is Obama’s beer summit? Why is it when one group of people protest he sends high level representatives and makes prejudgements of the offending party? Couldn’t this corporate pResident resolve all of this with a pardon? Can’t we have a beer summit over the grievances of Patriots?
    Second: If I was Donald Trump, I would immediately head to Oregon and walk directly into the thick of this and meet with these Patriots and assure them that I would pardon the Hammonds and all others required on his first day in office and that unconstitutional actions by alphabet agencies against the organic citizens of the organic States would end. I would then pray that he would then be able to walk these Patriots out in peace after a brief negotiation and press conference detailing everything. Trump should also make a public appeal to Soetoro for an immediate pardon. Of course just to put the traitor impostor Soebarkah on record as indifferent to real people and the true citizens of the united States of America. You know the ones who are the actual rulers of our nation and not corporations owned by the UNITED STATES inc.

  15. ronberry65 January 4, 2016 at 11:41 am

    Dave I read the USGS minerals report of the area and see that just like at the Bundy land they will make out well by getting ranchers off the land and then selling it over to the Chinese as “solar” land. When what they really mean is Uranium, Arsenic, Silver and Gold bearing land.

    I planned to attend the march in burns but a car accident prevented our attendance. That was a peaceful demonstration. No mention on any of the websites of taking over buildings.

    I watched and waited for something to come out in Northwest news or Fox and it took half the day but finally it came out.

    However now they are accusing that the fires were set to cover up illegal poaching of the king’s deer?
    These men were tried by a jury of their peers for 9 counts of ?something and found guilty of just the 2 counts of Arson.
    Was deer poaching something they were found not guilty of in the first trial?

    Isn’t this double jeopardy being tried for arson once then terrorism again for the exact same crime?
    Can any decisions of a judge just be arbitrarily changed once they are retired?
    I am an Oath keeper and even thought Mr. Rhodes did not take part in this event I am not going to rip up my membership like Pete Santelli did at the protest. They still do great things. The 3 perceter groups really put this thing together and seem to be growing much faster than the oath Keepers. My sons and nephews are southwest WA 3 percenters and have over 100 members. I can seem to find any other oath Keepers in my area at all. They all quit and started a different Liberty movement.

    Thanks for your great articles Dave!

  16. Hm January 4, 2016 at 11:44 am

    Wounded knee 1973 anyone then it was 200 not 155.

  17. NaturalBoredCitizen January 4, 2016 at 11:58 am

    I strongly suggest that all true living citizens take the time to read the six pages in the first link. If not you’ll never really understand why nothing seems normal and why you’ve awoken in a ‘rabbit hole’ confused how you got there. The second link, well I’ve read everything on the site, most more then once and then investigated it all for errors, misrepresentations and willful omissions. While one must understand this is not the complete encyclopedia of what is, it is a rather eye opening summary and guide to action. Dave could you please do an interview and exam of
    anna-von:reitz? Could you also consider a discussion with her and Publius Huldah? I should think this combo would be quite eye opening and may serve to save our Republic.




  18. Wiley Prepper January 4, 2016 at 12:00 pm

    My prayers go out to anyone who will stand up for the Constitution and against the evil of our shadow government. Dave what about the $400,000. fine… the land grabs and the stealing of water rights? What about when they come and take our property for taxes after the economic collapse? You are lost in the what and forgetting about the why.

  19. toejam January 4, 2016 at 12:45 pm

    Dave writes:”Eventually, Attorney General (AG), Janet Reno, who strikingly reminds one of present AG, Loretta Lynch, ended the siege by burning out and killing most of the inhabitants at the compound including scores of women and children.’

    According to Roger Stone in his new book “The Clinton’s War On Women”. Janet Reno was quite reticent in giving any order to burn out the Branch Davidian’s compound in Waco.
    According to Stone it was none other then Hillary Clinton who gave the order for Reno to burn down the compound.
    But not covered in Stone’s book, it was none other than assistant AG Eric Holder who covered Reno’s ass in the Waco debacle and helped hide from the public knowledge of Hillary’s role.

    The sad part in the whole Waco affair is that “…The federal agents (in) attempting to arrest the leader of the Branch Davidians, David Koresh, on information that the religious sect was stockpiling weapons”, could have taken place outside the compound. Koresh was seen many times outside the compound having breakfast at a nearby café.
    The whole Waco holocaust was cock up from the beginning.
    The federal leviathan wanted to make a statement and in the process willing to sacrifice scores of men, women and children as a burnt offering along with four clueless AFT agents to show the American people who’s the boss.
    Make to mistake here, the leviathan will have one or more of it’s agent provocateurs mixed in with the 150 making a stand, rightly or wrongly, out in the high desert of SE Oregon.
    If that is the case, considering that every major act of “terrorism” for the last 35 years visited upon the comatose American people has had the fingerprints of the federal leviathan, it may not end well up in the high desert of Oregon.

  20. Arizona January 4, 2016 at 1:04 pm

    IF the people of the county KNEW,their land had already been SOLD to the chinese,AND that it contained TRILLIONS of dollars in natural minirals,they MIGHT wake up,ALL the USGS studies from the 1970″s prove why the government and the chinese want their land,and they’ll get it too,the people won’t brother to find out whats going on till their all killed and they will be,THAT entire part of the country has BEEN SOLD to the CHINESE,and the TRAITORS IN THE POLICE GANGS AND MILITARY will help KILL them all,and THEN the chinese will KILL them,and THEN OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN will send every pig and traitor in america to HELL right where they all belong…THEY “ALL” LIED when they took their OATH TO GOD,to bad the people still support these traitors,they’ll be going with them to hell……

  21. WyldeGoose January 4, 2016 at 1:37 pm

    Teddy Roosevelt visited the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and spoke with Emperor Franz Josef. The Emperor told him that the duty of a monarch is to protect people from politicians. This is something that even now Americans can’t quite wrap their heads around. Because there are only two forms of government – Monarchy and Oligharchy (rule by the many). Republics/Democracies do not exist. Without a hereditary monarch strong enough to check the power of the oligharchs, you will always have this kind of abuse.

  22. Jason January 4, 2016 at 2:29 pm


    Great article. I am very weary of Blaine Cooper and his friend who claimed a couple months ago, he was wanted by the FBI, but they couldn’t find him, Jon Ritzheimer. I have talked to Blaine personally about 3 year ago and he seemed like a decent guy. But the timing of this even and the fact they broke off from a peaceful protest and took over a “federal” building just doesn’t smell right. I noticed on one of Blaine’s videos it looked like green screen due to outline of bodies in front of it and the gentleman reading the meeting point notes seemed very surprised by what he read. I urge people to use discernment when it comes to this group. I think what they have done is wreckless and it puts the patriot movement and gun owners in a very bad light, which is exactly the end game for TPTB.

    You know my stance pretty well as you had aired on mine and Clint’s show in the past. US Inc is the biggest terrorist organization in the world, run by foreign money and powers. If anything, people should be coming together and instilling common law back into play, indicting these criminals, to include the people posing as government officials, and sentencing them to prison. People need to stand together and take their communities, cities, states, and countries back. This criminal organization and its members are only as powerful as we allow them to be, our silence is our consent.

    All said, I really hope this ends peacefully and people have their eyes opened to the strong possibility this was a huge set up for the patriot movement in this country and some of the players involved can no longer be trusted.

    God Bless you and your family and keep providing the great articles.


  23. MR. TRUTH! January 4, 2016 at 2:35 pm

    “The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” – Thomas Jefferson

    “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”— George Washington

    “What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. . . Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins.” — Elbridge Gerry

    “This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it.” — Abraham Lincoln

    “Experience hath shown, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.” — Thomas Jefferson

    “Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American. . . The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.” — Tench Coxe

    “The ultimate authority resides in the people, and that if the federal government got too powerful and overstepped its authority, then the people would develop plans of resistance and resort to arms.” — James Madison

    “Today we need a nation of minutemen; citizens who are not only prepared to take up arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as a basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom.” — John F. Kennedy

    “If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.” – Alexander Hamilton

    But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. – Declaration of Independence, 1776

  24. Seen2013 January 4, 2016 at 2:44 pm

    “Stay tuned, we are watching history in the making.”

    I’d have to agree…

    “These men came to Harney County claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers, when in reality these men had alternative motives to attempt to over throw the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States.”

    Waco II is a bit of an understatement given the quote and diplomat historical context:
    1. Today’s issues center on redefining militia back to the 1870-90 redefining militia era making a ‘regulated militia’ governmental controlled and utilizing feeble-minded aka mental illness/defect to bar access and entry.
    2. Overpopulation and human interventionism of human evolution -Malthusian and Eugenics movements that merged in the 1970s and self-described Neo-Malthusians. Feeble-minded was the catalyst for population control in 1906-1960 after those designated feeble-minded were disarmed and banned entry into a regulated militia.
    3. Brandon Smith http://www.alt-market.com/ discussed on multiple occasions that the Liberty movement that includes Constitutionalists, Independent Party supporters like Ron Paul, Second Amendment Supporters, and etc were attempted to link as Russian Astroturf/Insurgency. I won’t be surprised if Waco II includes communication intercepts linking the militias to the Russians particularly with the ‘Putin’ worship.
    4. Oath Keepers and other militia groups and Second Amendment organizations such as NRA are then deemed respectively terrorists-Russian insurgency and asymmetrical warfare units.

    People should realize that the situation grants Tyrannical Psychopaths-Sociopaths the opportunities that they have been attempting to garner that includes eliminating dissent and rivals by denying them the Second Amendment and linking them to terrorist/foreign insurgency garnering support for further enhancing big central powers…
    I’m thinking that they got played and played big time.

  25. I told you so... January 4, 2016 at 3:04 pm

    The so-called Patriots are not what you think! I hope Capt. O hasn’t sold out and was just duped!

    Pete Santilli is bought and paid for and this whole thing is timed for the POTUS speach on gun control!


  26. Astonished at the Govt :o January 4, 2016 at 3:36 pm

    I am in such disbelief at how much our government has become outright BULLIES! Cold, cruel, invasive animals! I did not realize just how EVIL the American Government really had become and for someone of their town to come against them HAD to be a PAYOFF. It seems that money is greater than LOVE — this Sheriff must be a lover of MONEY MORE! The Father bless this family and bring forth JUSTICE in the face of WICKED and CONTROLLING MEN! Father break those men and give each one who comes against them a double portion of what they are giving.

  27. James January 4, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    I really appreciate the time you put into telling us the truth!! Thank you!!!

    As far as the situation in oregon? Please do your best to explain the details of the issue accurately. This is a peaceful protest against the Fed and the blm and their land grabs. Alot of the people in the area are in full support !!!!

    One last thing ….the federal agents are storing their tactical supplies in the schools! This is the reason the schools are closed. This info was mentioned by a fireman in the county. Please get this truth out and support the alternative media !!! The mainstream media is tearing this issue to shreds!


  28. CatskillPatriot January 4, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    Hi Dave,
    This should concern us all. What the Feds are doing to the Hammond’s is wrong, including a lust for the mineral rights to be given to PAC donors and the Chinese, the LSM is portraying these people as being violent when thus far no violence has happened on the behalf of the ranchers. Hopefully no violence will happen. If it does it will be the Feds who really initiate it, then they will blame it on the ranchers and Patriots with the LSM shouting the lies without a thought.

    With the Renegade going for more gun control, this is made to order for any anti gun initiative. Right now the best thing is for a stand down.

    Where was the LSM and the Renegade when it came to Ferguson, Baltimore and Black Lives Matter when there was violence, burning, destruction and some police being killed? Was the LSM and Renegade calling them domestic terrorists or wanting to do gun control? Here we and armed blacks on the streets with semi automatic carbines and that was OK, but when rancher who are not carrying guns protest, then that is bad? Hypocrisy!! Of course any Islamic terror attack will not be deemed as terrorism or domestic terrorism either!! Only when it involves Patriots and people of a lighter colored skin. That may sound racist, but it is what it is and I am no racist.

  29. Daniel H Benson January 4, 2016 at 4:03 pm


    Just listened to your broadcast with Doug and Joe.
    Clearly as you 1st stated. Classic case of mind control. They get the enemy to do just exactly what you want them to do.

    Clear example of mind control.

  30. grego January 4, 2016 at 5:02 pm

    I missed the part about it being a false flag.

  31. 395 January 4, 2016 at 6:54 pm

    Just one more reason for Obama and company to go after guns.

  32. Robbie41 January 4, 2016 at 8:07 pm


    Hello Dave, Please have a good listen to an Interview I just heard with Joyce Riley, With Sam Bushman. You may get a lot of other good Info from this radio interview.. Enjoy..Rob

  33. Robbie41 January 4, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    I meant that the radio interview may help you also with this story you have written here.. Just a thought.. Rob

  34. CT January 5, 2016 at 9:56 am

    Yes the People have arms. They could just as well have a baseball bat or a slingshot. They did not accost anyone at the BLM building nor hold anyone hostage. One may ask the question: Just who are the ones being held hostage?

    The following is are excerpts from a letter issued by Judge Anna Maria Riezinger:
    to All Members of the Press Corps, All Federal Employees, All Members of the American Armed Forces, All Sheriffs, United States Marshals, and Others Responsible for Public Safety and Peacekeeping:

    “The corporations responsible for this behavior are no different and no better than Walmart or Sears or Burger King; they have used names like “Bureau of Land Management” or “United States Department of Agriculture” and so on under color of law.
    The “Bureau of Land Management” is not an actual unit of the American government. It is a foreign corporation whose only business here is to provide us with “essential governmental services”The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) facilities being occupied by American Militiamen were bought and paid for by the people of this country for the use of the BLM with the understanding that the BLM is a unit of the American government and is working in good faith for the people of this nation.

    “However, according to the public and private records, the BLM is not in fact any part of our lawful government at all and has not been so for decades. It is a privately owned foreign “governmental services corporation” operating under color of law; it has no business interfering in the activities of the ranchers and farmers, occupying government facilities under conditions of fraud, or otherwise presenting false claims of interest, ownership, or authority.”

  35. freddd January 5, 2016 at 2:06 pm

    So the mining companies, which make up the top 1%, urge the Feds to kick people off this land so they can strip it of its minerals. They say to the feds “Treat these people as criminals and thrown them in jail if they refuse? Do we live in a democracy or an emerging Fascist State? If these people have lived and had cattle on this land for decades, what makes the mining companies think they can just come in and claim this for themselves?

  36. whiskey2 January 7, 2016 at 12:41 pm

    Compare the apparently pending federal assault on the protesters in Oregon to what did/didn’t happen when American Indians seized Alcatraz island for several months, a few years ago. There was never any attempt to retake the island and when the Indians simply walked away a few months there was no attempt to arrest or prosecute them…but, patriots with a legitimate beef concerning abuse of federal power…they have to be killed!

  37. Whiskey2 January 7, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    Don’t see my earlier comment comparing this standoff with the American indian seizure of Alcatraz island some years ago. Suffice it to say that patriots who have long recognized the injustices perpetrated by the American government and who are rightly defending our collective, God given rights as enumerated in the U.S. constitution, deserve to be heard…not slaughtered!!!

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