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Why Your Pastor Is Not Your Friend

Dave Hodges

The Common Sense Show

April 23, 2014

 

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The times we live in are perilous. Our way of life is under direct attack and Armageddon could be thrust upon us at any time. There, I do not have the time mince words and I will be clear, there is an overwhelming chance that your pastor is not your friend.

Pastor Greg Tucker

I recently condemned pastors who support and lead churches who “enjoy” the 501-C-3 tax exempt status offered by the IRS. This prompted Pastor Greg Tucker to publicly criticize my stance on this issue and he demanded to know what pastors I was attacking. This article will make it clear who I am attacking and why the vast majority of you who are reading this words need to leave your church if you truly value the salvation of your soul.

Pastor Tucker has seen fit to take me to task for my comments regarding my advice for all Christian believers should leave their church if that church is a tax-exempt 501-C-3.  Pastor Tucker said “…Not sure which pastors you are implicating, but I would suggest not including ALL pastors in your expression as you have in this article”.  Pastor Tucker, let’s be clear. I am implicating all pastors of 501-C-3 churches. Are you such a pastor who is endangering the salvation of your flock? 

From Pastor Tucker:

“Point of emphasis…Not sure which pastors you are implicating, but I would suggest not including ALL pastors in your expression as you have in this article. This is a wrongheaded assumption. This pastor for one has spent the last two years bringing my leaders  congregation along in developing a watchful eye of what I see coming; occupying (words of Jesus) our space; time in the way He leads us to do so. So to lump me as a pastor in wrong headed assumptions like you have here is a big mistake. For me it invalidates your message. Makes me raise the question, “What other wrong headed assumptions are you building your argument on?” And I’ve been an avid reader of your posts for some time now–but will reconsider this, maybe I was the one making a wrong-headed assumption myself about you; your message. Disheartening to say the least–not all pastors; churches fit the picture you paint of us; you should acknowledge such. Tactics like these are nothing but fear peddling for the sake of instilling fear as opposed to standing your ground in the strength, power; might in Christ Jesus.”

Pastor Greg Tucker

Is your church a friend or foe? Is your church is a 501-C-3 tax exempt church? Is your church an agent of the government? If your church leadership does not condemn anything controversial, no matter how antithetical to the word of God, you are not worshiping in a Christian church. If your church is a 501-C-3 tax exempt church, your church leadership has already been taught to educate the flock to follow the will of the government, no matter how heinous the actions of these people may be. Does the following sound like your 501-3-C pastor?

Romans 13 Does Not Equate to the Divine Right of Kings

Does your pastor command you to follow the will of the government because it is your Christian duty to do so under Romans 13?

The modern interpretation of Romans 13 is pure blasphemy. This scripture has been morphed into a doctrine espousing the “Divine Right of Kings” in which God has somehow chosen a king to ruthlessly rule over a people and it is incumbent upon the people to accept their “God-given fate”,  The flock are commanded to “…submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.”  This false interpretation is nothing but a divine coronation of a ruthless, self-serving government and Christians are expected to capitulate and honor the same kind of thievery, lawlessness and murder which inspired Jesus to expel the moneychangers from the Temple.

What Kind of God Would Do the Following?

As I contemplate what many of the churches will be like as they embrace a perverted interpretation of Romans 13, I am left wondering what kind of God would condone the horrific abuses being perpetrated by the Obama administration? What kind of God would command its religious leaders to simply ignore the American Holocaust which has witnessed the murder of over 50 million American babies, since Roe vWade, in 1973? What kind of God would not have its clergy and its followers fail to condemn the bankster controlled wars of American imperialism which have resulted in the unnecessary deaths of millions of human beings? What kind of God would fail to command his clergy to not speak out and to condemn the actions of the criminal money changers on Wall Street, who inspired only by the love of money, continue their heinous assaults upon humanity in the form of unlabeled poisonous GMO’s, the theft of solvent home mortgages by the mega banks, and the secret detentions and the murder of American citizens under the NDAA. What kind of God would order his followers to remain silent as the bankster controlled government plans to commence a world war starting with Ukraine in order to support the preservation of the Petrodollar which will result in the potential death of billions of human beings?

In actuality, no God of the Bible would ever command his followers to both enable and to serve the evil which permeates our government. For any church that encourages complete obedience to a corrupt government has taken a big step towards accepting the Mark of the Beast. This is a very dangerous precedent, and this could potentially imperil the salvation of millions if Christians allow this false doctrine to expand across our nation’s churches. To Pastor Greg Tucker, in answer to your question, I condemn all purveyors of this false doctrine which is a perversion of the Bible.

The Clergy Response Team

Many of your 501-C-3 pastors have gone so far as to put on the uniform of the enemy. The Clergy Response Team falls under the umbrella series of programs known as National Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster (NOVAD) which is a non-profit, member organization which shares knowledge and resources throughout a disaster. The organization helps to prepare, respond, recover and to mitigate the damage caused by some unknown disaster presumably which lies in the future of humanity.

Amazingly, NOVAD claims to be a faith-based coalition which is structured as a non-governmental organization and operates on a national scale and is supported by tax dollars funneled to DHS.

Instantly, Bible believing Christians should smell a rat. Since when, in the modern era, has the federal government ever sponsored organized religion? The answer is not since well before the advent of the atheist activist, Madalyn Murray O’Hair, who was successful in banning prayer in the public schools in 1963. Then why would the government suddenly fund and support a “faith-based organization” on a national scale?  The simple answer is that Homeland Security is seeking to control our churches and ministers, before the impending train wreck comes to fruition inside of America. DHS desperately is seeking to control all Christians through the perversion of Romans 13 and this is one of two cornerstones in this movement designed to control Christian leaders. And this government foothold into the control of our churches begins with accepting the 501-C-3 tax exempt status which gives the government license to control the message and to ultimately pervert the word of God.

Pastor Tucker, I condemn all men of the cloth who would lead their believers astray.

What Is the Root of All Evil?

God-fearing Christians must wonder why so many of our religious leaders have forsaken the religious roots of their obedience to the word of God and espouse an unquestioning faith in government. The answer is surprisingly simple as every Christian knows that the root of all evil is the love of money. If your church is a 501(c)(3) organization, then your church has a significant financial motivation to not truthfully interpret the true message of the Bible. The tax exempt status of being a 501(c)(3) organization is the other cornerstone of this shift away from allegiance to God and towards worshiping our new Savior, the federal government.

According to the Internal Revenue Service, no substantial part of a religious, tax exempt church may engage in any activity which may be attempting to influence legislation and the church may not intervene in political campaigns. In other words, if the government decides to secretly disappear dissidents, the church must remain silent or risk losing its tax exemption. If the government continues to expand its infanticide policies by extending the murder of babies to include post-delivery abortion, then the church must remain silent. If the government engages in any heinous, genocidal act, such as the murder of 1.2 million Iraqi’s, under the false pretense of looking for weapons of mass destruction, the church must remain silent or risk losing the tax advantages for being a 501 (c)(3) tax exempt organization.

Combine the 501 (c)(3) financial motivation with the DHS inspired NOVAD directive for clergy to remind their flocks of their Christian duty to obey their government under any and all conditions, we are witnessing the neutering of our most precious institution and the ultimate salvation of millions could hang in the balance.

Christians Must Rescue Their Churches
From the Clutches of DHS and the IRS

Is your church a 501 (c)(3)? If it is, then realize that your fellow worshipers likely have a problem when it comes to worshiping in a church where the word of God reigns supreme against all else.

The proof is in the pulpit. Does your religious leader teach from the Bible? Does he/she apply the lessons of the Bible to daily living and does not shy away from controversy when the actions of government violate the laws of God? Does your church renounce evil in all forms? Does your clergy encourage their congregations to oppose evil, by being faithful to the word of God in all areas? Does your church organize its followers to carry the word and the will of God to society as a whole in an effort to save the misled? Does your pastor denounce abortion, war, thievery, murder and all behaviors which violate the Ten Commandments? If not, it would be prudent to find a church in which the word of God is honored and unquestionably supersedes the word of government when the two conflict. And if you cannot find such a church, then you can always begin a small Bible study program with a small group of believers.

Is Opposition to Tyranny Obedience to God?

There is clearly a time when Christians should disobey civil authority. Acts 5:27-29 states that “Having brought the apostles, they made them appear before the Sanhedrin to be questioned by the high priest. We gave you strict orders not to teach in this Name,’ he said. ‘Yet you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and are determined to make us guilty of this man’s blood.’ Peter and the other apostles replied: ‘We must obey God rather than men!’ Could it be more clear that as long as the law of the land does not contradict the law of God, Christians are commanded to obey the government. However, if  the law of the government contradicts God’s word, Christians are commanded to disobey the government and obey God’s law.

Today’s religious leaders who bow down to the holy temple of Homeland Security are bought and paid for at a very cheap price. What does a church gain by accepting a 501 (c)(3) tax exemption? Ten Percent? Twenty Percent off from its tax obligation? This makes the thirty pieces of silver that Judas took to betray his Lord, look like a good deal. Compromised pastors should take warning of Judas’s ultimate fate.

No 501-C-3 Church Can Be a Church of God

If your church does not pass the litmus test mentioned here, then find another church. If you cannot find another church where the laws of God reign supreme over the laws of man, then start your own Bible home study group with a small number of believers. The latter is the safest way to worship God without governmental interference.

Mark 8:39 clearly states, “What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?” Mark possessed the courage to pay a price for his faithfulness. This kind of faithfulness should be embraced by all who claim to lead our congregations in the name of God.

The 501-C-3 tax exemption = 30 pieces of silver. 

All Pastor’s who lead 501-C-3 churches, need to fall to their knees and beg for God’s forgiveness for leading his flock astray through espousing the false doctrine of government over the King of kings. According to Yahoo Answers, nearly all churches are a 501-C-3 tax exempt status.

And finally, to Pastor Greg Tucker, I have “Googled” your background. Forgive me sir, but you should not throw stones when you live in a glass house.

 

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  1. Michelle Alena Lovejoy April 23, 2014 at 5:51 am

    Amen Brother, unfortunately you speak THE TRUTH. Our churches are filled with demon possessed pastors and flocks that are blinded to what is really going on in the spiritual realm. If you even mention demons you are considered a RADICAL!!! The spirits of conformity, greed, control, manipulation, religion, pride, arrogance have invaded the church and the love of money is where it is at for them. Many are going to hell, and are leading the masses there as well. It breaks my heart, and breaks the heart of God!!!

  2. CEO constitutional enforcement officer April 23, 2014 at 6:16 am

    O.K. Dave you had me with the duct tape over the professional preachers mouth. Ten thumbs up , I only have two but that’s how much I support your message of truth on this very, very important issue , actually the most important in the world today ,is the betrayal of the phony professional preachers. Again if you can pay a man to tell the truth than you can pay him not to. The professional preachers serving two masters are and have been the single biggest destructive force to truth and freedom in this nations history. The most effective voices of hell are those that crawl after that thirty pieces of silver that the Godless gov dangled in front of them , and lead by twisting Gods word to manipulate the customers ,, I’m sorry congregation , church talk . I have been saying this message for years, and I thank God for people that have a bigger voice to carry this warning to those that LOVE TRUTH.

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  4. Mike Andrus April 23, 2014 at 6:21 am

    I share the distress over the misuse of Romans 13:1. Perhaps this will help: “LET every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power (in the church) but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.” You will remember that Paul claimed direct commission from the risen Christ. His fellows in the Apostleship (save Matthias) were ordained at the hand of Jesus Christ. The reference to ministers of God in verse 4 confirms the meaning of Romans 13 as a purely ecclesiastical doctrine. The application of Romans 13 to civil governments makes reason stare and no good thing comes of that silliness.

  5. BBQandDonuts April 23, 2014 at 6:41 am

    hushmoney.org does a fine job of explaining what Mr. Hodges outlined.

    Keep up the good work, sir.

  6. pauline lind April 23, 2014 at 6:45 am

    Dear Dave,

    This is your most positive works of art, a public message that fit’s the times and warns the people of their fate if they continue in the path they are going.

    All your works are treasured warnings, but this one is the gemstone of them all – I only hope thousands of pastors will fall to their knees and pray to turn America around before it is too late. Churches control the actions of millions of people – and in this time in history – they are in control of these people’s lives.

    Thank you so much for your inspiration and the guts to share with all of us the way you do.

  7. Warrior54 April 23, 2014 at 6:53 am

    It appears today anyone can wear the label PASTOR, No so, scripture clearly lays out the qualifications, Great article Dave, Dont how i missed Mondays broadcast, somehow i had Greg H. interview, nonetheless the information was priceless!!

  8. de April 23, 2014 at 6:59 am

    Here’s what’s gonna go down soon. A letter will go out, reminding Churches that in order to maintain their 501 status they can’t discriminate. This will include sexual orientation.

    Then homosexuals will start applying for pastor positions and every other position at a Church. Openly.

    What will you do then, pastor? you have to hire the homosexuals or lose your 501 status. And that means losing your building and all your assets, since those are owned by the 501 corporation. You can’t just dissolve without losing everything.

    I’ll tell you what you are going to do. You are going to keep your mouth shut and hire the sodomites no matter if you like it or not.

    Or lose everything.

    I’ve actually spoken with Pastors about this. I’m told, “well we’ll just forfeit our 501 status if that happens. Ha. If it were only that easy.

    Another one literally said “it’s not nice to poke the government with a stick”!!

    I’m looking for another Church that’s not 501. Can’t find one. It looks like home Churches may be the answer.

  9. Derace Owens April 23, 2014 at 6:59 am

    Jesus Says,”COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE, AND DO NOT PARTAKE OF HER COMING PLAGUES! I HAVE “MY MARCHING ORDERS”!

  10. Linda Williams April 23, 2014 at 6:59 am

    I have to say that I am increasingly swayed toward this position. I am swayed toward the view that the schools, also are perverted. I was bamboozled by Karen Hudes, after seeing a long interview video of her. I saw subsequent videos and suddenly her message sounded very different –The Chinese and Russians are our friends and we are all working together for a brave new world sort of thing. So, John Rambo was probably right about her being a shill. I thank God for this site.

  11. Jim April 23, 2014 at 7:08 am

    My advice would be to read the Bible and become your own pastor. Trust no one in power, especially when money is involved, most churches are nothing more than just a front for profit and gain. 501 C3 pastors are nothing more than government operatives!!!

  12. Craig Mouldey April 23, 2014 at 7:19 am

    As to what kind of God would do the following, the only answer I can come up with and probably the only correct answer is this: A God who has determined to bring His judgement against that nation! Given that, we do not want to be found in support lest we share in that judgement.
    I suppose I would be viewed as a bit of a rebel with a bad attitude. I do not support Sunday school nor all the programs churches have for different age groups etc which segregate families from each other. I believe having these big church buildings is also a trap. The early church did not have them. They met in peoples homes in most cases.
    Always remember. “where two or three are gathered together in My name, there I am in their midst”. So saith the Lord.
    I’m sure there is a lot of compromise in Canada too but I don’t know that it is along the lines of a 501c3 situation.

    EDITOR’S NOTE: ACCORDING TO YAHOO ANSWERS, CANADA IS THE SAME

  13. Romans 13 April 23, 2014 at 7:19 am

    Instead of believing what a pastor says, I read Romans 13 over and over. To me it seems to clearly state that governments are put there by God period. If it’s a good government, it’s because they are a God fearing nation. If it’s a bad government, it’s because we’ve pushed God out. It clearly states if you fight against the government, you are fighting against what God has put in place (for his own purposes). One of the main themes behind the OT that is reoccurring is when Israel turned to paganism, God gave them over to their enemies. In some cases to the point they would eat their own children out of hunger. This could beg the same question “why would God allow that?”. When Israel followed God, they prospered.

    I personally still believe whole heartedly in exposing evil and their deception. Getting the truth out. As far as battling against the government, there is no point until the country repents. Will God support a country who celebrates evil? We all know that isn’t going to happen. Christ said his kingdom wasn’t of this world. I often wonder why so many struggle so much with trying to preserve this world. The octopus arms of evil are entwined through everything. You’d have to wipe it all out completely and start over. Sound familiar?

  14. Frank C April 23, 2014 at 7:20 am

    from an article at http://www.davidbealaw.com/tax-exempt-organizations/churches-religious/should-churches-incorporate-and-seek-confirmation-of-tax-exempt-status-from-the-irs/

    Churches are 501(c)(3) tax exempt organizations by default

    Some people believe that churches should not be 501(c)(3) organizations. They fear that churches will have to waive their first amendment freedom of speech rights in order to qualify as a 501(c)(3). This fear is unfounded. First, many people do not realize that any organization that is properly classified as a church is automatically deemed tax exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, whether the church has applied for IRS recognition of its 501(c)(3) status or not. Churches may apply for IRS recognition of their exempt status (and receive what is called a “determination letter”), but they are not required to do so.

    EDITOR’S NOTE: THE GOVERNMENT MADE ME DO IT DEFENSE? WHAT RATIONALIZATIONS WE EMPLOY TO JUSTIFY THE RECEIPT OF OUR 30 PIECES OF SILVER! 501-C-3 IS SOMETHING THAT MUST BE APPLIED FOR!

  15. Oscar F April 23, 2014 at 7:31 am

    COWABUNGA, Dave! You’re plumb right on the money, in more ways than one! May OUR tribe increase, sir!

  16. Bridget Shaw April 23, 2014 at 7:43 am

    Brilliant article Dave, and the ten commandments are truth. I would add to that ..we respect all life.

  17. The Tinker April 23, 2014 at 7:49 am

    The first clue to a church that is all screwed up should be when the pastor says” “My Church”. Or adds: “My Congregation”. Or better yet: “My Pulpit”.

    One of my former pastors…when asked a question about anything…would always bring out his “denominational handbook” to see what the “denominational position” would be. NOT ONE TIME did he every reach for a Bible. Not one.
    The so called “Non-denominational churches” are worse. They always reach for the latest “hot selling book” by some author who thinks they have all the answers. Or some psychology book…
    There are great teachers…but you really have to want to find them. Ask God where to look.
    One survey states that the only reason most people go to any church…is so they can” have a place to be buried from.”
    “For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God:….” 1 Peter 4:17

  18. rena April 23, 2014 at 7:54 am

    AMEN!!!!

  19. Kp24 April 23, 2014 at 8:06 am

    You are now officially pathetic Dave….not all tax exempt church are misleading followers….I challenge to prove every church is misleading followers……this is how you know your church…if they preach on hell and damnation, the government is a bad thing, and there is only one way, Jesus….that is a god fearing church….how dare you claim every church is wrong..you have no proof and you are lying and will be held accountable for you false testimony…….

    EDITOR’S NOTE: WE ARE ALL HELD ACCOUNTABLE ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO PURPORT TO REPRESENT GOD. GOVERNMENT OVER GOD IS SOMETHING THAT YOUR RETORT IS STRANGELY SILENT ON. LET ME BE CLEAR, IF A 501-C-3 PASTOR SPEAKS AGAINST GOVERNMENT ACTION, HE IS BREAKING THE LAW. KIND OF A CATCH 21 DON’T YOU THINK?

  20. Pastor Mitch April 23, 2014 at 8:13 am

    I understand what you are saying – but I have to disagree at one point. I pastor a dominational church, we are word of God only, KJV only, and very old ways in everything we say and do – but years ago the IRS talked the large to small church groups to sign in together to get 501 3c status and they did. We are one of the churches caught in the loop not all churches with the status can be lumped and grouped together. Some of us really do not have the option now, despite our own standards or beliefs. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water – warn yes, but over killing the point does not help the cause of Christ.

  21. Piper Michael April 23, 2014 at 8:14 am

    Dave,
    THANKS FOR THIS ONE!
    I have been saying this for years, it is good to see that the message from the Holy Spirit is finally breaking through.

    Pastors, what was the lesson of Samuel and Saul? The lesson of the money changers? What was the British government more afraid of than George Washington’s pathetic little army? The Black Robe Regiment. Where is our Black Robe Regiment today? Bought and paid for with 30 pieces of silver… your hypocrisies rise to the heavens, you are vipers, pharisees… no different than in the Lord’s day! You don’t even know what Babylon the Great IS. It is the System of Babylon, manifested in the System of the World, led by the Greatest nation ever conceived by God. The Empire of the world, that fulfills prophecy. The System is the statue of Nebuchadnezzar, the Head of Gold on two legs of ideology, with the ten lost tribes divided like iron and clay. Their minds vs their emotions, divided by nonsense doctrines that are in love with The System, and worship the idol god Mammon. The System is Tripartite, bankers, kings and religion, interlocked, self supporting, as ONE. The Lord’s final battle, will become our final war.

    God did not want us to have kings, because kings take the peoples minds away from God and corrupt the whole nation. Where is Godly authority? In the men of God. Where are the Men of God? Hiding from the evil, and trimming their wicks, filling their lamps, selling coats of comfort and buying swords of truth.

    These are lessons forgotten in the land of feel good doctrines.

  22. iwitness02 April 23, 2014 at 8:16 am

    501-C-3 usually equates to SuperfunRockBandChurch. H/T A.B.
    Getting down to the nitty gritty. This is where it all starts to get real.
    What are you willing to believe? Or what do you seek? And what do you find?
    Fun and entertainment/Study and understanding? Which is the more appealing?
    Every heart has its own answer. The two choices have very different outcomes.
    Your heart will lead you to its/your fondest desires. There will be no hiding from your decisions/desires when such time comes that every man will give an account of himself. (pretty far fetched scenario wouldn’t you agree?)

  23. Gary Porter April 23, 2014 at 8:19 am

    Careful, there is more than one Pastor Greg Tucker out there.

  24. James S. April 23, 2014 at 8:27 am

    Let’s think about this: The time frame is shortly after the death and resurrection of the Messiah. The apostles and early believers are spreading the word that the Messiah lives and that people can be reconciled to the Father! The word spreads like wildfire! Officials are alarmed at the movement that is taking place. Too many people organizing like that does not bode good for Rome; who knows what it could turn into? The Roman government decides to establish a law that the people supporting the Ecclesia (church) can take off the amount they give from the taxes owed to Rome. All that the early Assembly has to do is register with the Government and send in the information of who gives what amount. Do we really think the apostles and local ministry would fall for this or go along with it? I just really don’t think so.

  25. Pastor Mitch April 23, 2014 at 8:27 am

    Adding no I don’t think this is a catch 22 – soon it will be hate speech for anyone to speak ill of the nwo and their plans – and it will still not be a catch 22 the pulpit does not answer to the world but to God alone no matter what the newest laws in any age have ordered. Look at history this is not a unique place the American church and pastors now stand disobedience to laws that are in the word of God are never wrong or a problem

  26. Widetracker April 23, 2014 at 9:03 am

    AVOID CHURCH LIKE THE PLAGUE!!!

    Please read: “The Way home or face The Fire”.
    http://jahtruth.net/wayad.htm

    Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the “I AM” Lord of hosts, that it shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).

  27. Yochanan April 23, 2014 at 9:24 am

    I was raised in the church, my mother made me go every Sunday. I am a firm believer in the words of Yeshua and what he did. I had been to many churches and asked many questions related to the scripture. Leaders did not like my questions and could not answer them. It is unfortunate that there is no one around that are “like minded believers”, but not being under the influence of those that blur the word of G-d, I am able to live freely to follow Yeshua without restraint. I believe the churches are a business and I have said for many years now, that they should be taxed. If they handle ceasars money, they should give to ceasar what he requires. Not ask ceasar for handouts. Since the founding of this country, the big lie is “we the people”. They are not “we” and I am not “we”, my allegiance is to Yeshua. Not men.

  28. Randy April 23, 2014 at 9:28 am

    Christ is King of kings, so we should not follow the lowly king, but the Most High.

  29. Yochanan April 23, 2014 at 9:29 am

    Kp24. “if they preach on hell and damnation”? Romans 10 says not to say in your heart who shall go up or who shall go down. G-d is judge, What a true church teachers is every word that proceeds out of the mouth of G-d and nothing else. See how I was just like Yeshua there, when he confronted Satan? They were not my words, but G-ds words.

  30. Dave April 23, 2014 at 9:41 am

    This is the reason for pulpit freedom Sunday which I believe is in October. It is to challenge the Gov’t to fine the churches for preaching about Gov’t while in the pulpit. I hope my church would turn away from the 501c if they were threatened by the Gov’t.

  31. Just me April 23, 2014 at 9:49 am

    Thank you Dave. We have known about this for a long time. Lew White wrote a book “Fossilized Customs” that was a real eye opener.

  32. bert April 23, 2014 at 10:16 am

    One must agree with remarks posted by “Romans 13”.

    Though the focus of this column is that of pastors of 501C-3 churches, much is said regarding “what kind of God would…”. It is this last sentiment that must be addressed.

    Yehovah DID turn His people OVER to evil rulers. Northern Israel was replete with wicked rulers who followed in the path blazed by Jeroboam, son of Nebat. Subsequently, when northern Israel was invaded, the agent of Yehovah’s choice was Assyria, a profoundly corrupt and pagan nation state which dispersed the Israelites throughout the area of their dominion. Judah was invaded by Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon, of the same ilk as the Assyrians. And yet, through the prophet Jeremiah, the Israelites were told to PRAY FOR the rulers of the nation to which they had been exiled, because if that nation state prospered, they would prosper:

    Jeremiah 29:7 ‘Seek the welfare of the city where I have sent you into exile, and pray to the LORD on its behalf; for in its welfare you will have welfare.

    Also note the “seven times” judgments to be applied to those who stubbornly refused to repent and turn to Yehovah as outlined in Leviticus 26:17

    ‘I will set My face against you so that you will be struck down before your enemies; and those who hate you will rule over you, and you will flee when no one is pursuing you.

    The prophetic word most assuredly makes it abundantly clear that it is YEHOVAH ALONE who sets rulers in place, and it is YEHOVAH ALONE who brings rulers to their end. The book of Daniel describes this through the account of King Nebuchadnezzar.

    Pity the poor ruler who holds to the “divine right” of kings, because that position holds that ONLY YEHOVAH can judge kings, which is most assuredly true. Yehovah WILL JUDGE and in righteousness and with justice. A corrupt ruler, no matter from which political structure, must answer for all decisions and choices. The barometer for righteousness in biblical Israel was for a king to copy, in the presence of scribes, the entirety of the Torah (Genesis through Deuteronomy), carry it with him always, and meditate on it daily. No ruler was to turn to the right or left, but ONLY follow Yehovah. When King Josiah read this requirement, he rent his clothing and fasted in sackcloth and ashes because he knew his predecessors had not obeyed this command and the nation would be subject to Yehovah’s fierce judgment. Judah earned a reprieve during Josiah’s administration, but judgment followed soon thereafter.

    Every time it is said “God wouldn’t” I fear that the entirety of Scripture has not been appropriated. Read the Old Testament. Yehovah is all about justice, whether New Testament “believers” like it or not.

  33. Bill April 23, 2014 at 10:36 am

    Dave Hodges, I could have not stated this fact any more poignant then you have. the churches have attached themselves to Baal and the fools dont even know it, and if they do know it, they dont care. You see, I used to attend a church like this, everything was lovely, good and God loves you, this was preached on a continual basis if when one of the senior elders was doing a Sunday bible study and trying to bring up the things that are going on, they shot him down and told him to stop it. their are no warnings about anything within the glass box. Its complete Whoredom along with the congregational members who dont want to hear it either.

  34. Carrie April 23, 2014 at 10:57 am

    In response to your column “your pastor is not your friend” i believe the church i attend is 501 (c) (3) status long as i have been going there since 2001.I have woken up for the past 2 yrs. AND i am so upset about the fact that my pastor does not incorporate with scripture/The prophecy,he preaches Nothing about anything and i am so Frustrated,when i ask other ministers in the church Why? does he not preach about abortion,Doma,core education,martial law,fema camps? The answer i get is this? pastor has a lot of new converts in the church now,if he preaches this they may leave! What the hell/excuse me) does that mean. The word of God shakes me most of the time telling me about myself.what do you do stop reading God words.Gods words are so corrective,harsh,all with love.I am so Frustrated i really believe i just aught to move on.I went to other churches and none of them are preaching what is happening.I am tired about talking to others about what is happening,they look at me as if i have a second head.my brother told me that i am a conspiracy theorist-he told me to put some foil on my head,go sit in the corner (lol) I also give some friends about hagmann,steve quayle,prisonplanet, prophecy news etc. and they just do not want to hear about what is coming down the pike. i even was speaking to someone about the giants,nephillim Duh!!!! Well i believe i will have to leave my church and find a home bible study,and others who feel the same way i do.I am so glad that you wrote this article i really thought i was being prideful,arrogant about why i wanted to hear pastor speaking what is happening in the world now or,warning us at least i belive the only time they will understand is!!! the military knocks the doors down,take away the kids,and throw you into a Fema Camp is this the only way someone will listen.God Bless you,i enjoyed your show on hagmann and hagmann w/ steve quayle Awesome message. Thank you Watchmen on the wall.

  35. Arizona April 23, 2014 at 11:10 am

    NO ONE had seen the LORD for a while,just a few of his PROPHETS,but all thru the 90’s and early 2000’s OUR DEAR LORD “JESUS”was traveling as a homeless person,HE WANTED TO BE ABLE to say to our FATHER,yes theres millions of good GOD fearing people in america,BUT thats not how it turned out,EVERY TOWN he went to, the police gangs arrested him and BEAT him up,NO ONE said a thing,he was hated everywhere he went,BY EVERYONE,and you know who I mean,OUR DEAR LORD,found NO MERCY anywhere,THE people spit on him,threw bottles at him,attacked him and beat him up,NO ONE came to his AID,they watched and laughed,………..

  36. James April 23, 2014 at 11:21 am

    The reply from Kp24 was pathetic. lot of rage and anger, all misplaced. Before I read any posts or web sites I always pray and ask the Holy Spirit to fill me with discernment and allow my mind to separate the false from the real. As radical as your article is in it’s presentation about 501-C-3 churches, it all rings true. Dave you’ve taken a stance that begs each and every pastor to take a deep and penetrating look within and question whom they are really following in these last days. My prayer is that you will continue to follow your heart and publish your always Spirit directed articles.

  37. Arizona April 23, 2014 at 11:32 am

    AMERICA,failed BAD,the test was given,YOU TRIED to kill the LORD everywhere he went,NOW YOU WILL BE DEALING WITH OUR FATHER,…HE has changed americas name to SODOM and EGYPT,I hope you understand what that means,YOUR going to PAY dear for how you treated his son,JESUS……HE came with his HEART filled with HOPE,and you beat him up,spit on him,and did everything you could to hurt him,OUR FATHER HAS CLOSED JUDGEMENT,the verdict,total destruction,and SLAVERY for your children,AND DEATH to your nation,at the HANDS of the CHINESE,YEA I’ve seen whats coming,RIGHT NOW,YOU BETTER GLUE YOUR SELF TO OUR DEAR LORD,…THE thousand years of PEACE will be starting soon,and america will be long gone,there won’t be any history books written about america,IT WON’T BE ALLOWED,…………………

  38. laura m. April 23, 2014 at 11:40 am

    I have been trying to warn others on this same issue for years using your info and other online info to incl C. Baldwin and Dave Daubenmire, etc. Why is it people who are informed still don’t see this one issue like we do? I have talked face to face and given out info and these folks are still languishing in these so called churches! Can these folks really be trusted or are they sell-outs when gov crack down comes?

  39. clete April 23, 2014 at 11:42 am

    I also believe the passing of the plate in church is an abomination .Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple just before he was crucified.I believe this was the main reason the scribes and pharisees along with the Romans murdered him.He was a direct threat to their oligarchy.Nothing has changed.The churches simply represent the new ungodly roman empire.

  40. GB April 23, 2014 at 12:04 pm

    Dear Dave,
    Thank you for your efforts and concern to spread the Gospel, but please do not distort the facts as you do so. You are not giving the full text of the IRS code regarding 501(c)3 exemptions for religious and charitable organizations:
    http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Charitable-Organizations/Exemption-Requirements-Section-501(c)(3)-Organizations
    It is also not against the law to speak out against the evil of abortion, or unjust laws. http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Item/1891/the_church_nonprofits_and_taxes.aspx
    In any case, what is first and paramount is to spread the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ and obey his commandments. Jesus said: ‘If you Love Me, you will obey My commandments’ John 14:15. Jesus also said: ‘For this I was born and for this I came into the world, to bear witness to the Truth. Everyone who is of the Truth hears my voice.’ John 18:37. So lets us spread the Gospel of the Truth.
    May the Lord Bless you and give you His Peace.

  41. Jim April 23, 2014 at 12:24 pm

    This country was founded by people in pursuit of freedom. Religious freedom predominantly. When the British Empire tightened its grip, the outcry was ‘heard in the churches’!!! Out spoken priests, pastors and ministers ALL. Unless they sided with the Brits. IF any priest, pastor or minister attempts to convince me that Romans 13 is a DIRECT ORDER FROM GOD to be obedient to tryanny, I will add the punctuation mark by punching him/her right in the head. I cannot attend a church because when I do I feel sick hearing the HYPROCRISY, DELIBERATE AVOIDANCE AND EXCUSES for preaching the nicey nice sermon over TRUTH. AND YES PASTOR, I will call you out in front of ‘your’ congregation. The bending over backwards to be ‘politically correct’, because HE would, is beyond pathetic. Yes The Lord preached Love. BUT, He didn’t say I come bringing hugs. He specifically stated He comes with sword. For Justice.

  42. Andrew viera April 23, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    hey Dave… I pastor a 501c3 church, and break the law all the time.
    Maybe what you should be asking is: WHY DID CHURCHES BECOME 501C3 in the first place! It was because ALL OF Y’ALL CHURCH MEMBERS wanted to have tax exemption for your charitable contributions–and YOU voted your churches to do this–so you could deduct it on your 1040 income tax form. Without 501c3 Tax-exempt charitable contributions could not be sustained. Man, I can’t stand the 501c3 government intrusion . It was there before I came to the church.. It is the demon staring me over the shoulder. I will disobey as my best effort. BUT YOU PUT IT THERE.

    EDITOR’S NOTE: YOU ARE THE EXCEPTION

  43. clete April 23, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    The american church today is mystery babylon’s henchmen.

  44. Andrew April 23, 2014 at 1:18 pm

    Listen, all of us are responsible for this dilemma. WE HAVE ALL HAD A HAND IN bringing this to its present situation if the following is true: (1) Have you ever filed your income tax claiming tax deductions for charitable contributions to your church? (2) After filing your 1040 form, Have you ever received a tax refund because you claimed a tax deduction for your charitable contributions to your church. Let’s not be hypocrites. It wasn’t the pastors who enacted 501c3 status to their churches.

  45. Mark Gabrielson April 23, 2014 at 2:05 pm

    according to the IRS:
    —————————————-
    Automatic Exemption for Churches
    —————————————–
    Churches that meet the requirements of IRC section 501(c)(3)
    are automatically considered tax exempt and are not required
    to apply for and obtain recognition of tax-exempt status from
    the IRS
    ——————————————

  46. Mark Gabrielson April 23, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    The Romans 13 scripture is -not- requiring us to obey and pay taxes to ecclesiastical powers (which God ordains) but world powers ( which God also ordains). Jesus says it another way, “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.” Here ‘men’ means those that are without (i.e. outside the faith). Peter echoes Jesus in saying, “Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.”

    for reference:
    Romans 13
    1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
    2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
    3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
    4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
    5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
    6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
    7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

  47. just sayin April 23, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    just learned that my church is 501c3. I’m going to bring it up to the elder board and see what happens. they teach truth, but i cant support a church that would choose money over God. I’ll wait and see what they do, but i will stop tithing to them immediately.

  48. Michelle Alena Lovejoy April 23, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    The spirit of RELIGION IS A DEMON SPIRIT and is leading the masses to HELL. Read a FREE ONLINE BOOK GONE VIRAL…..www.everythingcomesoutinthewash.com
    JESUS HATES RELIGION!!!

  49. Tim Martin April 23, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    Dave, what EXACTLYdid you mean ?….PLEASE EXPLAIN when you said ” you who are reading these words need to leave you church if you value the salvation of your souls”

  50. Yurre April 23, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    Dave, my brother…you hit on a special issue that I have been ‘preachin’ for years..
    Fantastic column, and God Bless.

  51. Melinda Weer April 23, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    My comment on this is rather long, so I wrote it as a blog post: http://www.editormelinda.com/blog.html

    Thank you for what you do Dave.

  52. Willard Aztec April 23, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    If you research it, you will find that all churches ARE AUTOMATICALLY TAX EXEMPT and that filing a request for 5013C status is RECOMMENDED thus no church has to kowtow to Washington and can simply inform their congregation.

  53. Troy Rejda April 23, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    Right on Dave! Every pastor has a choice. No pastor is tied to his 501 (c) (3) status, but for the love of money every such pastor will cling to every excuse and even outright lie rather than renounce their church’s 501(c)(3) status. They fear losing their congregation which equates to losing their income. God created His Church! Government usurped the church. God never intended for His Church to submit to government. The modern 501(c)(3) church has at its head government then God and then the church leadership. This is a Luciferian construct and a recipe for disaster. We left the 501(c)(3) Luciferian construct several years ago, banded together with other reminent belivers, and started a Home Church and never looked back. God still does miracles and wonders in His true Church. I encourage all true believers to follow His design for His Church and not the mindless sheep following the easy path and the broad road to destruction.

  54. ray April 23, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    Right on Dave! If 666 is “the number of the beast”, then 501(C) 3 is “the number of the whore that rides the beast.”

  55. iwitness02 April 23, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    JESUS’ RANSOM SACRIFICE FOR ALL

    Hi Everybody,

    That Christ Jesus died for the sins of the whole human family is very apparent from the following passages: John 1: 29, 36; 3: 14-17; 11: 51, 52; Rom. 5: 18,19; 1 Cor. 15: 3; 2 Cor. 5: 14,15,19; Gal. 4: 5; Col. 1: 20; 1 Tim. 2: 6; Heb. 2: 9; 1 John 2: 2. The Bible speaks of His death as His giving Himself a Ransom for all men (Matt. 20: 28; 1 Tim. 2: 6). The word ransom is the translation of the Greek word antilutron, which is compounded of the two words lutron, price, and anti, instead. It means a price instead of, i.e., a corresponding price. The figure is that of a business transaction. In the figure God is the creditor, Adam and the race in his loins the debtor, and Jesus the Purchaser. The Creditor requires the payment of the full debt, no more and no less. The debt is the human all of the perfect man Adam. The purchase price to redeem the debtor must be the exact equivalent. Jesus became a man and laid down this exactly equivalent price by His death, when in offset of Adam’s debt He gave the all of His perfect humanity. Thus as the perfect Adam’s human all involved his right to life, as well as all his perfect human life-rights, which when he sinned had to be surrendered in death in payment of his debt, so Jesus as the corresponding price had to lay down His human life and all His perfect human life-rights. Both being perfect human beings, of exactly equivalent rights, the life and life-rights of Jesus are a corresponding price for those of Adam. Hence, as the Ransom, they are an offset before the Creditor to the complete debt of Adam, which by heredity involved Adam’s entire race, yet in his loins at the time of his sin. The Ransom, therefore, implies in God’s “due time” ( 1 Tim. 2: 5, 6) the complete deliverance of the entire human race from the Adamic sentence. Now, by an imputation, this corresponding price cancels the sins of Jesus’ followers (Heb. 9: 23; 10: 14; 1 John 4: 10), and thus gives them an opportunity to gain everlasting life. By and by, through an application, as a gift, it will cancel the sins of the whole world ( 1 John 2: 2). Hence the world, then free from the Adamic sentence, will be given an opportunity to gain salvation from all the effects of that sentence; for if it was just that through the forfeiture of the human life and life rights of Adam they by heredity became involved in his ruin, it is just that through the substitution of an equivalent of Adam’s debt they be freed from the sentence, in order to deliverance from every vestige of the ruin. Accordingly, the Ransom guarantees an opportunity for everybody to be saved. Therefore those who did not enjoy that opportunity in this life will have it in the future life. Thus we see there is hope for the unsaved dead who did not have such an opportunity in this life.

    P.S.L.J. The Millennium 1956

  56. Aaron Livingston April 23, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    God Bless you Dave. Highly agree! and Support you on this It saddens me that Pastors would give up their flock to the Govt all fof the fact of Money or obeying Mans law. God was clear throughout the bible DO NOT FOLLOW AFTER MAN MADE LAWS AND RELIGIOUS SYSTEMS (Emphasis). it is clear the time of Lawlessness is in fact here NOW, hold your head high for redemption is near! May Yeshua be with all his flock and uplift, heal, strengthen and give Shalom to all who fight a good battle against the religious systems, man made laws (Those that see to overtake Gods laws)

    AMEN!

  57. Pamela April 23, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    Something else to consider… many believers tithe and offer to their church with the understanding that God will bless their obedience and increase fruit of their labor. Then the same people turn around and choose to take their “reward” from the US Government in the form of a “tax write off” therefore canceling the blessing from God. Think about it…. Would you rather trust God or the Government for your security?

  58. Calabash April 23, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    Pharoah put the “rule” in “Ruler” over Egyptian Jews who were forced to build his empire. God commissioned Moses to represent Him in the fight to free His chosen people from tyranny. Pharoah and Egypt were basically destroyed by God in the process. Now, does that sound like God wants his children, both Jew and Gentile, to slavishly bow down to any corrupt ruler and his/her government henchmen? Not in any type of situation . . . workplace, police, schools, churches, and especially not corrupt governments . . . does God want his children to suffer under the rule of tyranny.

  59. Gerald April 23, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    8+6=14 that’s funny, SAD, but funny.. Pastor Tucker, How many Gods are we to serve? As a 501c3, when you Wed a couple don’t you have to say “By the powers invested in me as a Officer of the STATE of – and as a minister of the Lord Jesus Christ I pronounce you man and wife” <———– Pastor,,,, that's two gods! Serve God Pastor or the State, can't serve them both ! There is no argument to refute that truth, your either an officer of the state or a pastor.

  60. Al F April 23, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    Dave you have hit the mark on this one. Unfortunately by the time the majority of Pastors and their flock realize they have been enslaved by the 501-C3 it will be much too late. The govt is already legislating away free speech both inside and outside the church. Just start reading the news. No more govt “manna” for those that speak out. It’s all about the money now. Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple but their descendants are still around.

  61. marleyman April 23, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    I think a lot of people just aren’t informed enough. Tax exempt churches certainly aren’t part of the solution. Ever since I learned about this I’ve been on a mission to learn more. Studying a little bit about sovereignty took me great lengths on my quest for knowledge. My wife and I got married without a marriage license thanks to the only non exempt church I was able to find in the whole state. The pastor is a true patriot and a man on god. Most people would not like his sermons because he is so up front and blunt about gods word, like it should be. There’s no bush to beat around. He made quite a few people uncomfortable at our wedding ceremony! Some people claim that we’re not really married but I just look at them and ask, “whose marriage is more legitimate, a gay couple with a marriage license, or a man and a woman without a license?” Just goes to show you how statist people are nowadays. Its sad really. People can’t think for themselves.

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  63. Bonnie April 23, 2014 at 10:55 pm

    The first amendment trumps all else. For several years now, ADF has challenged pastors to participate in Pulpit Freedom Sunday. It’s on October 5th this year.
    See http://www.alliancedefendingfreedom.org/content/docs/issues/church/Pulpit-Freedom-Sunday-What-It-Is.pdf
    and
    http://www.speakupmovement.org/church/LearnMore/details/4702

  64. Coach April 23, 2014 at 11:22 pm

    Bravo Dave. You are so right on so many points that you made. My respect for you has grown to a new level. I am sure that you know that you will be getting a lot of backlash from the “disorganized” church. I am also sure that you know how to handle this backlash.
    As Craig Mouldey pointed out in his earlier comment and as you have suggested, the 1st century church made a habit of meeting in smaller groups at followers homes. Anyone who reads the book of Acts will see that this is an obvious key to the success of their outreach in those times. A very heavy-handed Roman rule dominated those days just as our nation is becoming with it’s government now. It is time to take the church back where it belongs – in the homes of the believers in smaller groups where the needs of each individual believer can be met. These are some verses that show this truth very plainly – (Acts 2:46, 5:42, 12:12, 20:20, 28:30, Romans 16:5, I Corinthians 16:19, Colossians 4:15, Philemon 1:2)

  65. PAUL April 24, 2014 at 12:24 am

    How do you fight or stand against a drug dealer when you want and are on drugs? The church is selling the product that they are supposed to be not for.I train pastors and i try to teach them to make the people an offering to god rather than paper with ink-it’s hard because they all want to have nice stuff.

  66. black April 24, 2014 at 12:34 am

    Outside of suggesting that God is your government, Romans 13 doesn’t suggest who your government is or should be.

    How does a government become your government? There are only a handful of ways.

    You might have been born under and in a particular government.

    You might have personally selected a government for yourself.

    You might be in a hostage situation, where someone else is literally controlling you. If so, they are your government, at least temporarily.

    If the United States is your government, you do not have to remain. It might be a job getting out of it, but you can do it. There is no law against it. In fact, you can get out and still remain on the land, because the United States and the President were never meant to be you dictator or king. They do NOT have the authority to be such. But it will take some study of the law to see that the government is not the land, and how to do this, and how to straighten them out when they suggest otherwise.

    If you want to do this, get online and learn from people who are doing it all over the place. Find out that you can pay your income tax bill, legally, by converting the bill into a money order – Accepted for Value – and paying the bill with the bill, why it’s legal, and why there actually is no other way, because money doesn’t exist, so you CAN’T pay your bill with money.

    Your pastor may not be the one who controls whether or not your church is a 501-C-3 corporation. In fact, he may be ignorant about the whole proposition. But once he learns, if he doesn’t attempt to train the church council into the correct way, then he must leave and form his own church if he is a good pastor.

    What is the correct way? There isn’t only one. The congregation could form a trust with the members of the church council becoming the trustees, and the mission field as the beneficiaries. Then, make the trust into a Charitable Religious Trust, a 508(c)(1)(A) trust, rather than a 501-C-3. This makes your trust tax “EXCEPTED” rather than tax “EXEMPT,” completely outside of IRS laws. If you must use a regular corporation to receive money donations, because they won’t allow a bank account for your trust, make the corporation a 501-C-3, and donate all the funds it receives from congregation gifts and donations, to the trust.

    Study. It’s in the law.

  67. mike molyneaux April 24, 2014 at 6:35 am

    Dave, all successful governments and administrations have their psychopathic elements, their cloak and dagger assassins, spies, inquisitions, chambers of horror, gunboat diplomats and theatricals. The US is no different. From the start these have been a great help for the US in becoming top dog. That’s the way power politics and empire has always worked, but now wide awake internet users are able to see past the window-dressing. Remove the psychopaths from office and close the dirty tricks and propaganda departments from doing what they do best and your enemies will lick the US in no time. The nice, honest guys who always play by the rules can only win in fairy tales, not in the big bad world we live in. Not until the mighty warrior appears on his white horse.

  68. mike molyneaux April 24, 2014 at 6:41 am

    Dave, all successful governments and administrations have their psychopathic elements, their cloak and dagger assassins, spies, inquisitions, chambers of horror, gunboat diplomats and theatricals. The US is no different. From the start these have been a great help for the US in becoming top dog. That’s the way power politics and empire has always worked, but now wide awake internet users are able to see past the window-dressing. Remove the psychopaths from office and close the dirty tricks and propaganda departments and your enemies will lick the US in no time. The nice, honest guys who always play by the rules can only win in fairy tales, not in the big bad world we live in. Not until the mighty warrior appears on his white horse.

  69. Snake April 24, 2014 at 7:28 am

    Been telling people that for a long time Dave. The churches are asleep ZZZZZzzzzzzz. The big ones that are affiliated with Universities such as Baylor University in Waco are the worst. They stroke themselves thinking they are such big dogs. Many are mini-elites in their own minds and their arrogance is a big part of the problem. They stand up and say nothing about the FED or the Military Industrial Complex or anything. Heck on a Baptist church right up the street there is a sign out front of the church playing military themes and saying how we need to pray for the troops. Let’s pray for the troops I say…..pray for their little souls. When are you gutless and un-godlike preachers and twisters of the Word going to say something about the Satanists in D.C. that send boys and girls to die for the enrichment of others?? You are a bunch of imbeciles. Pray for yourselves you are going to need it more than anybody when the Anti-Christ comes. When pinhead comes and tears your soul out remember what you stood for. I have to ask my self that question everyday. What did I stand for today? If your preacher isn’t asking that question of himself on a regular basis he is likely a heretic and a sham….

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  71. Joseph Melo April 24, 2014 at 8:56 am

    Revelation 13:16-17 King James Version (KJV)

    16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
    17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    Revelation 3:18
    I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

    The gold tried in the fire is the faith of Christ Dave.

    James 2:17-18 King James Version (KJV)

    17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
    18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

    Jesus showed his faith(believing who he was in the flesh) by fulfilling the gospel the gospel he preached according to prophecy.

    John 3:14-16 King James Version (KJV)

    14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
    15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
    16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    John 8:28 King James Version (KJV)

    28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

    We are justified by the faith of Christ(righteousness(work) of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ: rom 3:22kjb).

    Galatians 2:16 King James Version (KJV)

    16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

    Philippians 3:9 King James Version (KJV)

    9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

    “the faith of Christ”=”righteousness(work) which is of God by faith”

    notice how the devil was tempting him(Luke 4:1-12kjb), he was attacking his IDENTITY: remember who the Son of God is according to the scriptures(Is 9:6kjb); and also remember we are saved/justified by him BELIEVING who he was in the flesh and fulfilling the gospel of prophecy which he BELIEVED was concerning himself.

    Proverbs 23:23 King James Version (KJV)

    23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

    You need to by the truth from Jesus him self Dave, which is done with a broken heart calling upon his name for mercy.

    If you have not received the gift of faith in the Sacrifice for sins by calling upon the name of the Lord Jesus in the fear of him(God); you are an unbeliever according to the scriptures and will be condemned when he returns and judges the world.(yes, this will also be the time the dead are raised, some to glory and many to condemnation(the second death): as it is written:

    Matthew 16:28
    Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

    ETERNAL DEATH.

    I am here if anyone has questions.. Dave, I know already the wrath of Jesus abides on you as it does everyone else I have met professing Christ.

  72. Tom Aumeg April 24, 2014 at 9:54 am

    What I see is churches speaking generally about the sanctity of life and service to the poor, praying for “our troops” and “our leaders”, but never for the Iraqis or Afghans that are at the other end of the bomb. To do so would implicitly criticize our government, which is what they are doing when they invoke prayers for our leaders and our troops.

    I just never ironed out in my mind whether this is because they are afraid of offending patriots in the congregation, or afraid of crossing the government.

  73. Joel April 24, 2014 at 10:12 am

    In my opinion, churches became irrelevant when they permitted legalized infanticide (abortion), prayer and Bible removal from schools, and implementation of other authoritarian/Orwellian ‘laws’.

    There is NO reason why the churches could not have opposed these hellish measures. Even now, church leaders only give lip service to these matters, but none take their entire congregations to the State and Federal Government Houses to demand that these insidious assaults upon both God’s laws and our own Constitution be stopped. Nope, it’s much easier to just cash their paychecks and keep Christ’s flock lulled to sleep with doctrineless songs and sermonettes, and sports programs to replace prayer vigils.

    Much prayer, much power. Little prayer, little power. No prayer, no power.
    Any guess on the where the American church is on the prayer barometer?

  74. Indy the Astronaut April 24, 2014 at 10:14 am

    For the reasons you have listed here, the authority of the church has been removed and given to the Sons of God. For those who can hear, they know this to be true. EVERYTHING that is wrong about the systematic church will be reconciled by those who are chosen for this time and season. They are beginning to know who they are. There is much reason to rejoice.

    The complacent, systematic church chewed up and spit out every single believer that God sent into them for the last 30 years. Do you think God will hold them guiltless? NO! Do you think that God will hold the believer who voted for an abortion candidate guiltless? The guilt of many politicians is upon the heads of those who complied through fear or for personal gain. Will the cowards inherit the Kingdom of God? No, they won’t. When I realized this, I repented of my support of even right wing candidates that operated the war machine without mercy. Restoration of our nation starts in the church. It is wholly accountable for the sin and the destruction because it rejected its mandate to exercize authority righteously.

  75. John April 24, 2014 at 11:48 am

    As I have stated before, Jesus called the religious leadership, political leadership & the scribes/ lawyers of His day Vipers.
    It was right after he chased & beat the money changes/banksters out of the temple, that these 4 large groups had Him crucified.

    The pastors 501 C-3 status does just the opposite, these pastors have been silenced by their actions.

    The tithe was designated for the poor & downtrodden of the church. Today it is used for salaries & buildings, while Jesus said he would not inhabit a building made by man again.

    The 11 apostles that were left picked the 12th apostle, Mathias. The self appointed 13th apostle Paul is a false apostle who presumptuously took the title “apostle” to himself.

    Jesus told the military man that He wished that His group would obey like the military group. Which means:
    1. The military group is not in Jesus’s group.
    2. Jesus’s group is disobedient.

    The only large group that has not been judged is the military. But I believe they are in the process of selling their soul also, because they are going along with the wicked management of this country.

    It was John the Revelator who pointed out the False Prophet News Media, who coverup & cheerlead for all the large groups.

  76. lori April 24, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    so if my church goes around to help give vaccines to impoverished children…..this sounds very evil to do, since vaccines are so bad for us ?

  77. Joanna April 24, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    This makes sense to me, except for one thing. When we pay taxes to the federal government, we are contributing to the largest, most heinous criminal syndicate in the history of mankind. Our money funds mass murder and rape, torture, the poisoning of all of humanity and the destruction of our ecosystems…. So it seems to me that each of us has a moral obligation not to fund this enterprise, however we may achieve that goal. It is not clear to me how a church could resist funding the government, and still operate, without taking advantage of a tax-exempt status. Perhaps their financial operation would simply need to be small enough that there was no tax involved, or they could break the “law” and risk the consequences. However, thank you for this article — it makes the conflict of interest quite clear.

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